Do we have the moral right to create artificial intelligence

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17 Nov 2012, 5:37 pm

I also had a small existential issue for the section forum to give this topic

"Computers, Math, Science, and Technology" Or "Politics, Philosophy, and Religion" that is the question :D

And as completely taken seriously once watched interesting program on the Discovery Channel on artificial intelligence, and although true artificial intelligence may not be built in my lifetime, despite I'm only 26 years old. It makes me wonder whether we have the moral right to play the God.

I would like to know your opinions on this topic



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17 Nov 2012, 5:40 pm

Yep. Keyword here is "artificial."


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17 Nov 2012, 5:47 pm

No,because as soon as it realises how amoral we are it will destroy us.
At least I would,IF I were a Cylon.



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17 Nov 2012, 5:50 pm

Definitely.

BTW , the other day, I created "artificial life". Little programs with a metabolism and a cycle of life. I can also make genetic programming and simulate the process of evolving algorithms out of a bunch of random stuff.


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17 Nov 2012, 6:10 pm

^^^^^^^Thats how it starts,innocent enough,but then.......



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17 Nov 2012, 6:38 pm

There is no moral imperative against creating artificial intelligence, except in the minds of cyberphobes.

Has anyone ever looked into Conway's 'Game of Life'? It's been around in one form or another since 1970.

The rules are simple:

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The universe of the Game of Life is an infinite two-dimensional orthogonal grid of square cells, each of which is in one of two possible states, alive or dead. Every cell interacts with its eight neighbors, which are the cells that are horizontally, vertically, or diagonally adjacent. At each step in time, the following transitions occur:
  • Any live cell with fewer than two live neighbors dies, as if caused by under-population.
  • Any live cell with two or three live neighbors lives on to the next generation.
  • Any live cell with more than three live neighbors dies, as if by overcrowding.
  • Any dead cell with exactly three live neighbors becomes a live cell, as if by reproduction.
The initial pattern constitutes the seed of the system. The first generation is created by applying the above rules simultaneously to every cell in the seed -- births and deaths occur simultaneously, and the discrete moment at which this happens is sometimes called a "Tick" (in other words, each generation is a pure function of the preceding one). The rules continue to be applied repeatedly to create further generations.

Once a "Game of Life" computer program is running, it's like watching bacteria in a petri dish under a microscope.

In a way, this is artificial life in its most basic form -- live, reproduce, and die.


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17 Nov 2012, 6:42 pm

^^^^^You make it sound so romantic.



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17 Nov 2012, 6:46 pm

Misslizard wrote:
^^^^^You make it sound so romantic.

But wait! There's more...

Code:
$ python LoveHackIn.py
Interests = 3
t = “with”
y = “There are %s things I enjoy in this world.” % Interests
activity1 = “talking”
activity2 = “making out”
activity3 = “being”
m = “They are %s %s %s, %s %s %s, and %s %s %s.”
x = “my wife”

print y
print m % (activity1, t, x, activity2, t, x, activity3, t, x)
$


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17 Nov 2012, 7:00 pm

Well,that's more like it!! :lol:



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17 Nov 2012, 7:03 pm

Misslizard wrote:
^^^^^^^Thats how it starts,innocent enough,but then.......
Worst case scenario, we are just gonna be replaced by a superior species of robots.

The net outcome is good.


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17 Nov 2012, 7:07 pm

I, for one, welcome our new cybernetic overlords!


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17 Nov 2012, 7:24 pm

Yes



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17 Nov 2012, 7:47 pm

ruveyn wrote:
Yes



Maybe, but I have rather mixed feelings that we have to make sure that the AI does not think it's much better than us and that it should rule, not us.

You do not have to look far just look to the Scriptures, that is, at the very beginning in the Book of Genesis. When the good Lord created us gave just a simple prohibition "Do not eat from the Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil." No but the man had to be wiser than God, for it got permanet ban from Paradise :( , but the milk was spilled, we don't have sure that our work will not disregard us as we disregarded our God



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17 Nov 2012, 7:51 pm

pawelk1986 wrote:
ruveyn wrote:
Yes



Maybe, but I have rather mixed feelings that we have to make sure that the AI does not think it's much better than us and that it should rule, not us.

You do not have to look far just look to the Scriptures, that is, at the very beginning in the Book of Genesis. When the good Lord created us gave just a simple prohibition "Do not eat from the Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil." No but the man had to be wiser than God, for it got permanet ban from Paradise :( , but the milk was spilled, we don't have sure that our work will not disregard us as we disregarded our God


You really should not take Bronze Age fiction and morality tales that seriously

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17 Nov 2012, 7:53 pm

Cylons beleive in God :wink:



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17 Nov 2012, 7:56 pm

Misslizard wrote:
Cylons beleive in God :wink:


Yes. The One God as opposed to the many God of the 12 colonies.

It would not surprise me if Abraham were not a distant descendant of Hera.

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