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27 Nov 2012, 10:54 am

Brutus:
There is a tide in the affairs of men.
Which, taken at the flood, leads on to fortune;
Omitted, all the voyage of their life
Is bound in shallows and in miseries.
On such a full sea are we now afloat,
And we must take the current when it serves,
Or lose our ventures.

Julius Caesar Act 4, scene 3, 218–224

Obama and his friends and supporters caught the tide and Romney and his buddies missed it.

Obama, for better or worse had his finger on the pulse of the nation.

As the follower of the Confucus would say: Obama had The Mandate of Heaven.

Obama's policies carried into extensively will lead to the further economic decline of the U.S. Even so, the people voted for him anyway. I suspect it is because Obama either addressed or successfully pretended to address their concerns. Romeny did not. He simply does not get it.

The Republicans at this juncture lack the Mandate of Heaven

See: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mandate_of_Heaven

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27 Nov 2012, 10:56 am

All I got to say is thank God he did!

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27 Nov 2012, 11:00 am

ooOoOoOAnaOoOoOoo wrote:

All I got to say is thank God he did!

You don't have to. The Mandate of Heaven is sufficient.

The Republicans are so out of synch with the nation that they really did not have a chance.

The Republicans can either wake up to the realities we face or they can go the way of the Whig party which they replaced back in the 1850's.

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27 Nov 2012, 11:25 am

"Reality-Based Voting"?! !

Shocking concept, eh?

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27 Nov 2012, 11:40 am

Plus: God didn't want us to become a Mormon nation.

Mandate of Heaven: I'll take it.

We just need to have some entity like Fox repeat it over and over.

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27 Nov 2012, 11:51 am

ruveyn wrote:

You know, you're 100% right. Not that Romney would have been any different in influencing the tide of the nation, even if he got control of the boat. He's almost exactly like Obama (I didn't vote.) His entire campaign consisted of reinventing himself to seem like a sorta kinda a little bit Liberpublican, when his past political views just about mirror Obama's.

As far as this tide, it's correct. Think of it this way. USA is a rusted out old car with a blown head gasket. Do you spend the time to repair it and restore it, or just drive it into the ground and buy a new car after? We've decided as a society to drive it into the ground.

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27 Nov 2012, 11:54 am

ruveyn wrote:

Obama's policies carried into extensively will lead to the further economic decline of the U.S. Even so, the people voted for him anyway. I suspect it is because Obama either addressed or successfully pretended to address their concerns. Romeny did not. He simply does not get it.

Sorry to burst your bubble but Romney would not be able to do any better on the economy. The supply-side drivel is nothing but a ploy to help the rich continue to get richer. They are the ones who destroyed the economy with their outsource-everything-and-profit-from-cheapness strategy.

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27 Nov 2012, 8:37 pm

the only down side with obama's victory is that we may have to wait a little longer for a bolshevik-style uprising in the United states. Now that would have made some entertainment.

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27 Nov 2012, 8:40 pm

thomas81 wrote:

the only down side with obama's victory is that we may have to wait a little longer for a bolshevik-style uprising in the United states. Now that would have made some entertainment.

I don't understand how anything can be longer than "forever" (the case if either of them won).

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27 Nov 2012, 8:47 pm

A simple fact of the matter is, Romney was seen as disingenuous because he tried to be something he wasn't - that is, a hard right conservative. And because Romney pretended to be a right winger, he became associated with all the crazies who make up the right. But this was just a matter of self delusion on his and his party's part, believing the right represents the American public. In fact, this delusion continued up to election night, when Romney and company had convinced themselves the polls showing an Obama victory couldn't possibly be true.

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27 Nov 2012, 8:49 pm

Master_Pedant wrote:

thomas81 wrote:

the only down side with obama's victory is that we may have to wait a little longer for a bolshevik-style uprising in the United states. Now that would have made some entertainment.

I don't understand how anything can be longer than "forever" (the case if either of them won).

America is heading for extremism in one form or another. The only question is which side of the political spectrum it ends up on.

I think the dinosaurs of McCarthyism have had their day. The old guard are dying out and making way for Occupy wall street style activists.

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27 Nov 2012, 10:01 pm

Obama won because, once again, the Republicans failed to field someone that had anything of substance to offer over the Democratic choice.
Romney just did not connect as well with the undecided public and I saw this coming months ago.

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27 Nov 2012, 11:58 pm

This election proved new reality. A candidate can't win just with the votes of white males. You need the minorities as well.

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28 Nov 2012, 12:38 am

Danimal wrote:

This election proved new reality. A candidate can't win just with the votes of white males. You need the minorities as well.

And that aint gonna change any time soon! Now let's see if the Republicans can do anything else than trying to suppress the vote.

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28 Nov 2012, 1:44 am

The answer to the question of why the Republicans lost the election is so much simpler than you're making it out to be, Ruveyn. You had a bad candidate. There. Simple, easy to understand, but what I don't get is why it's not so easy for Republicans to deal with. I mean, Democrats were able to understand how weaksauce John Kerry was after he was trounced, why can't you get that Romney was just terrible?

Romney could not stop putting his foot in his mouth. From his 47% comment to his pissing off Britain in that disasterous PR trip overseas. Mitt Romney seemed to go out of his way to anger anyone who wasn't a white bread Republican.

Romney had no fiscal policy to put forth. Agree with his plan or no, Obama was very clear on what steps he would take to move the economy forward. Mitt and Paul Ryan literally told the American people "you'll have to elect us to see the plan". It doesn't work that way.

Romney moved way too far right in his Primary fight to be accepted by we middle grounders. Independent voters determine the election. After having to dig his hole deep deep right field in order to fend of the likes of Santorum and Perry, Mitt Romney simply could not come back to the middle. He tried hard to flip on certain issues, but all that did was lead back into point 1 where he made an ass out of himself.

Bottom line is that Mitt Romney sucked as a presidential candidate. He was not, nor would he ever be ready for prime time. But, he had spent the money, bought the right people, and had been campaigning for the past 4 years. Since none of the GOP demogogs, like Palin, would step up, the Republican party was left with no choice.

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28 Nov 2012, 5:56 am

now what other scary pol will the teapublicans put up for 2016?

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