Reality check on Isreal-Hamas conflict.

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The plain honest truth is that the conflict is not one sided like many of y'all believe. Both sides have done wicked deeds, as shown by Ben Swann in this video. Thoughts? I personally believe that even though both sides have faults, Israel's violation of libertarian principles has been the leading cause of conflict in the crisis we see today

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=7Wfz1DA6x_I[/youtube]

. . . dammit, embedding failure. Watch it anyway!

I feel like King Canute on this, trying to convince certain people but i will just give my 2 cents.

To blame the Palestinians is at best over simplifying the matter and at worst, condoning attempted genocide. Hamas do not represent the views of all Palestinians. There are elements such as fatah and the socialist PFLP who desire dialogue with Israel. Unfortunately, Israeli aggression is exacerbating Palestinian public support for Hamas. Its a proverbial vicious cycle.

Israel as the dominant power, holds all the cards. They hold all the keys and are guarding all the doors. They have all the nuclear weapons, battleships, tanks and jet bombers. There is no imminent risk of Israel being annilhated and they have no concept of proportional response. The Palestinians only weapon, which are little more than glorified bottle rockets, are grossly inefficient and only a direct hit poses a threat to life - Israels answer is a bunch of state of the art cluster bombs in a populated centre. Hamas's rhetoric about wiping out Israel is purely bravado and hot air. Israel needs to curtail its military intervention until such time that a moderate alternative to Hamas can take authority.

By the way, there are Israelis out there who want Palestine wiped out as badly as Hamas want Israel wiped out. Likud and Hamas are both sides of the same rotten coin.
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=3df_1353298899

Agree or diasagree with me, I don't care anymore. I am done with this topic on this forum, and this is where I'm at. Some of the pro Israel people are every bit as badly grounded in their dogma as the Hamas extremists they claim to loathe so much.

maybe once those munitions are fastened to the hardpoints of F -16 falcons or Dassault Mirages Israel can plead a case of having to worry.

i certainly hope the allegations of white phosporous use in civilian areas turn out to be false but from all the footage floating around it really looks like it is happening,

they even hit a UN outpost with the stuff, all the staff swore it to be white phosporous and have accused israel of war crimes.

It does not take long for the hardcore Zionists to leap into eliminationist and genocidal rhetoric.

At any rate, Hamas won this round. The buffer zone Israel imposed inside Gaza has collapsed. Israel for the first time agreed not to go hunting people in Gaza. This is completely new but there may be a trick in there somewhere. That is, some may be telling the Nut n Yahoo to completely let Gaza go and take it completely out of its security perimeter so it can guarantee the Jewish majority in the rest of Palestine. Hamas of course cannot accept this, as far as it is concerned the West Bank and Gaza are one, if they want to go two states it has to be two real states and the Palestinian state in the occupied territories. Otherwise, a one-state solution and a mixed country will happen.