Are humans apes?

Post Reply New Topic

Good for you. I can't say whether or not God exists or if it is the God of the Bible. I can say that there is so much evidence for evolution that to deny it shows incredible ignorance of what is demonstrably real.

Many so-called Christian web sites that argue against evolution are such blatant LIARS that they bring no honor to Christ. They ignore much of the evidence for evolution and deny or distort what they do not ignore. They take pieces of quotations out of context in such a way to make it look like the person quoted meant the opposite of what he or she really said when you read the whole quotation from the original source. THAT is dishonest and I have no respect for such LIARS!

Truth is truth. IF evolution did not happen, God is a liar to plant so much evidence of so many different types that clearly shows it did happen, and so-called Christian web sites such as Answers in Genesis and Institute for Creation Research (to name two of the biggest liars) do nothing but turn people away from Christ by spreading LIES about what evidence exists.

I respect the honesty of the Catholic church at least on this issue.

Of course, most of the denominations that argue the most vehemently against the observable fact of evolution also hate Catholics, so this statement by a Pope will do nothing to convince them. But at least it shows that not all Christian denominations are outrageously out of touch with demonstrable reality.

Didn't you read the bit about our now knowing that human chromosome 2 is two ape chromosomes fused together? Whatever your sources, you are wrong sir. Besides the genetic evidence (not just chromosome 2, but the endogenous retroviruses and pseudogenes in the DNA of related species), there is the fossil record. The oldest hominid fossils are more ape-like with a clear progression to more human features over time. Educate yourself before spreading more misinformation.

You beat me to it.

no we are not. we were created by god. please stop thinking this way.

And God created us by the means of gradual evolution through natural selection. Evolution that included an ape-like phase.

And God created us by the means of gradual evolution through natural selection. Evolution that included an ape-like phase.

And God created us by the means of gradual evolution through natural selection. Evolution that included an ape-like phase.

Didn't you read the bit about our now knowing that human chromosome 2 is two ape chromosomes fused together? Whatever your sources, you are wrong sir. Besides the genetic evidence (not just chromosome 2, but the endogenous retroviruses and pseudogenes in the DNA of related species), there is the fossil record. The oldest hominid fossils are more ape-like with a clear progression to more human features over time. Educate yourself before spreading more misinformation.

Incidentally, my own Lutheran Church - Missouri Synod has been trying to walk a tightrope on this matter. In order, I think, to satisfy two different view points, the LCMS official statement states while the Biblical account of Genesis is accepted, legitimate scientific theory is also accepted. Unfortunately, this has allowed for the growth of the anti-evolution crowd in my church body - and it's pissing me off. Oh well, I still voice my Pro-Darwinian opinions during Bible study.

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer

The Genesis story of creation taken -literally- is nonsense. Totally false nonsense. None of it is true, as it is stated. The Bible was written by late Bronze Age dudes who thought the sun and moon went around the earth which according to Genesis is -flat-. See the story of the sun and moon standing still over Gibeon in the Book of Joshua. The Bible isn't even good fiction. Tolkien's Silmarilion (which has a creation myth) is much better written.

Why do you support an organization which puts Utter Nonsense on the same level as well founded Scientific Theory?

ruveyn

The first human was a robot.