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19 Nov 2012, 1:17 pm

http://www.csmonitor.com/World/Backchan ... yptian-one

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Murdoch is Murdoch, which is what makes two tweets of his from last night so interesting. The first: "Can't Obama stop his friends in Egypt shelling Israel?" And the second: "Why Is Jewish owned press so consistently anti-Israel in every crisis?"

I'm not sure what great friends Obama has in Egypt. It's true that the US didn't stand in the way of the Egyptian uprising that saw longstanding dictator Hosni Mubarak driven from power in 2011. And the Obama administration has been seeking to craft a workable relationship with the new civilian government of President Mohamed Morsi, a senior member of the Muslim Brotherhood, since.

But A. US influence is limited in Egypt, given the hostility of a large swathe of President Morsi's constituency to the US and its strong military support for Israel; And, B. (And this is the important bit.) Egypt is not firing anything at Israel.

Israel is taking missile and mortar fire from the Hamas-controlled Gaza Strip, of course. But that's much as has been happening since 2001, all but one of those years occurring when Mr. Mubarak was in power in Egypt. Though Egypt then, as now, has some influence over events in Gaza (it hosted failed talks on a failed cease-fire attempt overnight) Hamas very much marches to its own drummer. Hopefully someone at Fox News will fill Murdoch in.

The second quote from Murdoch up above is equal parts troubling and illuminating. He seems to believe that the owners of media outlets should require their reporting to conform to their owners political preferences and world-views, rather than reflect observed reality. It's fair to assume that's what happens at his sprawling press holdings, particularly his US-based flag-ship Fox News.

That's the illuminating part. The troubling part is his apparent belief that Jewishness should be synonymous with support for the current Israeli government, even for Jewish-Americans. It's long been an anti-Semitic trope in US and European life that Jews are not truly loyal to the countries of their birth and citizenship, that for them Israel comes first. Such false claims are rightly pushed back on. Then there's the frequently made anti-Semitic claim that the "Jews control the media," usually made within various conspiracy theories....


And, Rupert's "apology?"

http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/lookout/mur ... 26128.html

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"Jewish owned press" [has] been sternly criticised, suggesting link to Jewish reporters. Don't see this, but apologise unreservedly.


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19 Nov 2012, 2:07 pm

Rupert Murdoch's anti-Semitism is the least of his problems.


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19 Nov 2012, 4:36 pm

you have to be delusional to not acknowledge that the Jews own the press. What families own the major publishing firms, who owns the NYTimes for goodness sakes?

It is self-guilt of a certain group's disproportionate influence that propels one to reframe reality in a more equalizing manner. Maybe they don't want the anti-semetic rhetoric, and chosenness projected unto them. Who knows. But saying the Jews own the Press is not anti-semetic. It is a stab at the Left, which Jews have pioneered.

But Jews owning the press is nothing new. They own wallstreet too, and the academics. And the arts. And every left-wing movement. And the entertainment industry. and the Press.


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19 Nov 2012, 6:41 pm

At least now we know: whenever anyone bashes the "Mainstream Media" or the "Lamestream Media" (i.e., pretty much any media outlet that Rupert Murdoch doesn't yet own), then he is using anti-semitic code for the "Jewish-Owned Press"

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19 Nov 2012, 6:55 pm

Is white owned "everything" racist against whites if it accurately depicts the disproportionate representation of whites in places of power, or ownership of virtually every industry?

It is emotional manipulation of the highest order to make Jews feel good about themselves, and their accusers feel as low as most Jews think of them. It also renders the the term antisemitism meaningless.


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19 Nov 2012, 9:16 pm

Do the Jooooz really own everything that Rupert doesn't?



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20 Nov 2012, 11:07 am

Actually, no. Ted Turner, who also isn't a Jew, owns a significant chunk of what Rupert doesn't yet own.

So, why is Rupert ranting about the "Jewish Owned Press?"



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20 Nov 2012, 11:47 am

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22 Nov 2012, 3:05 am

ArrantPariah wrote:
Actually, no. Ted Turner, who also isn't a Jew, owns a significant chunk of what Rupert doesn't yet own.

So, why is Rupert ranting about the "Jewish Owned Press?"


I think deep down, Murdoch really associates the left with Jews. The only reason why he is "Pro-Israel" is because of the American right's obsession with Israel. And that's only because they expect God will reward them for being nice to Jews when Jesus comes back to rule from Jerusalem for a thousand years.
Does anyone know if Rupert is an evangelical? If not, I have to think he's playing along with the fundies and holy rollers for political advantage, and that he doesn't really give two s**ts about Israel.

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22 Nov 2012, 3:34 pm

http://www.cathnews.com/article.aspx?aeid=32485

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In 1998, Murdoch, a non-Catholic, but a generous benefactor to the Catholic Church, was made a papal knight of the Pontifical Order of St Gregory the Great. Beside him in the ceremony in Los Angeles was his second wife, Anna, a Catholic.

Although he gave well over $10 million to the Church, the knighthood may also have been political. Pope John Paul II and Murdoch were both active anti-Communists.

Many Catholics were horrified that a purveyor of sleaze, tabloid sex, scandal and nudity was blessed with papal recognition. Further ammunition was given to critics three months later. After 31 years of marriage, Murdoch and his wife separated.

The following year, little more than two weeks after the divorce was finalised, he married his mistress, Chinese-born Wendi Deng, a former employee. She was 30. He was 68. Subsequently, he was diagnosed with prostate cancer, but this did not stop them having two children with the help of IVF. According to rumours, the couple briefly contemplated joining the Catholic Church, but, in the end, remained Protestant.

Murdoch, though, is a sincere, Bible-believing Christian. This is seen in one of his few direct statements on his personal faith, made 20 years ago when married to Anna. In an interview in America with the journalist Nicholas Coleridge he said: “They say I’m a born-again Christian and a Catholic convert and so on. I’m certainly a practising Christian, I go to church quite a bit, but not every Sunday and I tend to go to the Catholic church – because my wife is Catholic, I have not formally converted.

"And I get increasingly disenchanted with the C of E or Episcopalians as they call themselves here. But no, I’m not intensely religious as I’m sometimes described.”



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22 Nov 2012, 3:39 pm

Kraichgauer wrote:
I think deep down, Murdoch really associates the left with Jews. The only reason why he is "Pro-Israel" is because of the American right's obsession with Israel.


And the modern European left's obsession with Israel and Palestine.



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22 Nov 2012, 3:45 pm

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http://www.cathnews.com/article.aspx?aeid=32485

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In 1998, Murdoch, a non-Catholic, but a generous benefactor to the Catholic Church, was made a papal knight of the Pontifical Order of St Gregory the Great. Beside him in the ceremony in Los Angeles was his second wife, Anna, a Catholic.

Although he gave well over $10 million to the Church, the knighthood may also have been political. Pope John Paul II and Murdoch were both active anti-Communists.

Many Catholics were horrified that a purveyor of sleaze, tabloid sex, scandal and nudity was blessed with papal recognition. Further ammunition was given to critics three months later. After 31 years of marriage, Murdoch and his wife separated.

The following year, little more than two weeks after the divorce was finalised, he married his mistress, Chinese-born Wendi Deng, a former employee. She was 30. He was 68. Subsequently, he was diagnosed with prostate cancer, but this did not stop them having two children with the help of IVF. According to rumours, the couple briefly contemplated joining the Catholic Church, but, in the end, remained Protestant.

Murdoch, though, is a sincere, Bible-believing Christian. This is seen in one of his few direct statements on his personal faith, made 20 years ago when married to Anna. In an interview in America with the journalist Nicholas Coleridge he said: “They say I’m a born-again Christian and a Catholic convert and so on. I’m certainly a practising Christian, I go to church quite a bit, but not every Sunday and I tend to go to the Catholic church – because my wife is Catholic, I have not formally converted.

"And I get increasingly disenchanted with the C of E or Episcopalians as they call themselves here. But no, I’m not intensely religious as I’m sometimes described.”


Interesting. Goes to show you, you could be the sleaziest SOB on the planet (and Rupert certainly is), and he'll still get a papal knighthood for hating commies.

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22 Nov 2012, 3:47 pm

You know part of me wishes he wasn't a public figure, so he could actually sue people for defamation of charecter...

Then again, I think it would be fairly easy to prove that people floating this b.s. are doing it out of malice...



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22 Nov 2012, 4:01 pm

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You know part of me wishes he wasn't a public figure, so he could actually sue people for defamation of charecter...

Then again, I think it would be fairly easy to prove that people floating this b.s. are doing it out of malice...


Huh? I think the sleaze charge can be easily demonstrated.

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22 Nov 2012, 4:04 pm

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Inuyasha wrote:
You know part of me wishes he wasn't a public figure, so he could actually sue people for defamation of charecter...

Then again, I think it would be fairly easy to prove that people floating this b.s. are doing it out of malice...


Huh? I think the sleaze charge can be easily demonstrated.

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It could be directed at just about anyone, what's your point?



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22 Nov 2012, 4:12 pm

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Inuyasha wrote:
You know part of me wishes he wasn't a public figure, so he could actually sue people for defamation of charecter...

Then again, I think it would be fairly easy to prove that people floating this b.s. are doing it out of malice...


Huh? I think the sleaze charge can be easily demonstrated.

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It could be directed at just about anyone, what's your point?


No, it could not. One just has to look at Murdoch's publications, and salacious show on Fox (which I admit, I've watched) to prove he deals in sleaze. Most of us don't have to worry about being painted with the same brush.

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