Lack of religion in classroom leads to violence

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15 Dec 2012, 3:05 pm

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/20 ... sf_twitter

Just when you thought the idiotic bible bashers couldn't get any worse.
Not only that, but there are dozens of people on Twitter claiming this horrific shooting could have been prevented if prayer wasn't removed from schools.
How utterly pathetic do you have to be to spout such nonsensical crap?
Imagine how the parents of the innocent children would feel if they read that? They're suffering enough without this nonsense.
I have no problem with prayer, i accept it can be comforting to some people and that's fine.
But don't you try and impose your beliefs on me; don't try and force it into schools.

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16 Dec 2012, 2:14 am

I usually lose when I argue with zealots who insist that whoever who refuses to acknowledge Christianity as the One True Religion will burn in Hell forever and ever. Argh... I'm ok if religious groups (such as churches) set schools up, but I do get upset if schools stray too far from secularity. Even Christian schools shouldn't have the right to make all students (regardless of religion) pray and/or attend chapel services.

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16 Dec 2012, 2:18 am

It's best just to ignore people like this and not give them attention they crave.

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16 Dec 2012, 3:52 am

prayers only make things a bit worse, a $2.4 million study involving more than 1,800 patients shows.

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/03/31/healt ... d=all&_r=0

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16 Dec 2012, 5:38 am

icyfire4w5 wrote:

. Even Christian schools shouldn't have the right to make all students (regardless of religion) pray and/or attend chapel services.

I would agree to that for public tax-loot funded schools. But not for private schools. Parents know or should know that they are putting their children through.

If parents send their kids into private chapel hell, it is the parents you want to admonish, not the schools.

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16 Dec 2012, 5:43 am

I think encouraging the individual to choose a religion and practice it would help, but if they chose a certain religion that rewards killing others by giving you 72 virgins, that would be counterproductive.

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16 Dec 2012, 7:38 am

John_Browning wrote:

I think encouraging the individual to choose a religion and practice it would help

Choose your own poison eh? No thanks. I had religion crammed down my throat at school. It has no place there.

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16 Dec 2012, 7:46 am

Lack of affordable mental healthcare had an indirect role in a mass shooting.

Also, there is a little thing in the Bill of Rights called the Establishment Clause.

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16 Dec 2012, 11:59 am

Religion ... Crusades ... witch burnings ... Jonestown ... Branch Davidians ... fatwas ... jihads ... 911 ... pedophile priests ... apocalyptic fear-mongering ... Puritans ... burkhas ... executions for adultery ... the Shoah ... cross burnings ... Jesus' Crucifixion ... Joshua at Jericho ... the stoning of Stephen ... self-immolating Buddhists ... the Siberian Gulag ...

Yeah, religion is really effective against hatred and violence ... :roll:

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16 Dec 2012, 12:20 pm

Fnord wrote:

QFT and emphasis.

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16 Dec 2012, 12:57 pm

putting a bible on a bookshelf, and hanging a cross with jesus in the classroom is probably not going to help.
I don't believe in religion as something that can save someone with these material things.

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16 Dec 2012, 4:25 pm

PM wrote:

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Lack of affordable mental healthcare had an indirect role in a mass shooting.

Unfortunately, there's a stigmatism with mental health care that still exists.
Some people are concerned that they'll be labeled.
It's not as bad as it was at one time but it's not gone, either.

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16 Dec 2012, 5:02 pm

Raptor wrote:

PM wrote:

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Lack of affordable mental healthcare had an indirect role in a mass shooting.

Unfortunately, there's a stigmatism with mental health care that still exists.
Some people are concerned that they'll be labeled.
It's not as bad as it was at one time but it's not gone, either.

About half the members of this site are afraid of just that after this shooting.

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16 Dec 2012, 5:09 pm

But one of the Ten Commandments is "Thou shalt not kill". It doesn't get any clearer than that.

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16 Dec 2012, 5:10 pm

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Except the Siberian Gulags were orchestrated by people who were ordered to be atheists.

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16 Dec 2012, 5:12 pm

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Except the Siberian Gulags were orchestrated by people who were ordered to be atheists.

The worshipped the Party and the great god Stalin.

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