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25 Dec 2012, 12:39 am

I just stopped by to wish a wonder filled Christmas to anyone who has room for it. I see there is as much intelligent discussion of religion as there ever was - talk about preaching to the choir! The exceptional intelligence-capable discutants - you know who i think you are - I tip my fur hat to you.

But I wanted to drop in to kill two birds with one stone: I found this from Gregory of Nazianzen:

The very Son of God, older than the ages,the invisible,the incomprehensible,the incorporeal,the beginning of beginning,the light of light,the fountain of life and immortality,the image of the archetype,the immovable seal,the perfect likeness,the definition and word of the Father:

He it is who comes to his own image and takes our nature for the good of our nature, and unites himself to an intelligent soul for the good of my soul, to purify like by like.


I have for a few years been pointing out how the incarnation fits the profile of a homoeopathic remedy. I had no idea how old [that is 4th century there] "my" insight is.

Live forever!



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25 Dec 2012, 1:07 am

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I have for a few years been pointing out how the incarnation fits the profile of a homoeopathic remedy.


What, that it's only water and does nothing?



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25 Dec 2012, 1:44 am

!hallelujah!

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25 Dec 2012, 2:09 am

Christ is born!



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25 Dec 2012, 3:21 am

Philologos wrote:

I have for a few years been pointing out how the incarnation fits the profile of a homoeopathic remedy. I had no idea how old [that is 4th century there] "my" insight is.

Live forever!


Incarnation, like homeopathic medicine is nonsense on stilts with zero empirical foundation.

There is nonsense and there is utter nonsense.

I think you have discovered utter nonsense.

Living forever is thermodynamically impossible.

ruveyn



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25 Dec 2012, 3:42 am

Empiricism aside
do we really know??
anything much really??

are we but natives of the jungle to superior beings?



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25 Dec 2012, 3:55 am

Surfman wrote:
Empiricism aside
do we really know??
anything much really??

are we but natives of the jungle to superior beings?


We think, therefore we am.

Very few of us know much directly, but using what others know we can infer and induce a great deal about the world.

The fact we are having this conversation using computers inter-connected by a world wide network indicates we (collectively) know a great deal and some of us (individually) also know a thing or two.

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25 Dec 2012, 10:08 pm

Cogito ergum, I woould say THAT is nonsense on stilts, whatever you mean by that.

And no, classical homeopathic remedies are not just water that does nothing - take a genuine look into that [and the Eucharist] someday.

But yes, Christ is born - thank God.



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25 Dec 2012, 10:34 pm

Philologos wrote:
Cogito ergum, I woould say THAT is nonsense on stilts, whatever you mean by that.

And no, classical homeopathic remedies are not just water that does nothing - take a genuine look into that [and the Eucharist] someday.

But yes, Christ is born - thank God.


A fat lot of good that has done.

The world is still going to Hell in a hand basket

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25 Dec 2012, 11:16 pm

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25 Dec 2012, 11:25 pm

red noses, chubby cheeks, and red and white mushrooms
not many remember xmas as the mushroom celebration it used to be
stockings over the fire to dry them at home
large pine tree branches were used to dry them in the forest
goodwill towards one fellow man
as in merry making, drinking and taking of mushrooms
Santa Shaman both wore red and white and their sacks were full of red and white mushrooms



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26 Dec 2012, 1:01 am

Arcanyn -

I should also point for interest to John 7: 37-38:

In the last day, that great day of the feast, Jesus stood and cried, saying, If any man thirst, let him
come unto me, and drink. He that believeth on me, as the scripture hath said, out of his belly
shall flow rivers of living water.

Let's not knock water.



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26 Dec 2012, 1:05 am

ruveyn wrote:
Philologos wrote:
Cogito ergum, I woould say THAT is nonsense on stilts, whatever you mean by that.

And no, classical homeopathic remedies are not just water that does nothing - take a genuine look into that [and the Eucharist] someday.

But yes, Christ is born - thank God.


A fat lot of good that has done.

The world is still going to Hell in a hand basket

ruveyn


But surely, that is the point? Nobody says what is said to transpire was to preserve the race, or the planet, or the universe. Should the butterfly to be bet grateful if a divine entity comes to prolong the chrysalis indefinitely? The world is temporal / temporary DESIGNED to self-destruct.



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26 Dec 2012, 1:16 am

And the spiritual world is all fantasy as far as I can tell.



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26 Dec 2012, 1:18 am

Philologos wrote:
Arcanyn -

I should also point for interest to John 7: 37-38:

In the last day, that great day of the feast, Jesus stood and cried, saying, If any man thirst, let him
come unto me, and drink. He that believeth on me, as the scripture hath said, out of his belly
shall flow rivers of living water
.



That sounds painful.



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26 Dec 2012, 2:03 am

MCalavera wrote:
And the spiritual world is all fantasy as far as I can tell.


It is the obsessive material fantasies that are more the problem in todays societies.
I shall offer some burnt lambs to appease