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26 Dec 2012, 4:08 pm

http://www.dailybreeze.com/news/ci_2226 ... source=rss

How the mighty have fallen.

Of course, i'm not blaming the average officer, the administration is to blame for this fiasco. Most cops want you to be armed, it makes their job easier.


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26 Dec 2012, 5:52 pm

As long as it's a voluntary thing, I don't see the issue here. I think gun buybacks are a good way to get guns out of the hands of people who don't want them.

What we do up here in my area is an amnesty day. If you have an illegal gun, or just a gun you want gone, you call the station and bring it in. No matter what the weapon is, they take it and out you go, no questions asked.


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28 Dec 2012, 7:56 pm

Hmmm.....
Looking at that picture some of them are junky but I definitely see some keepers in that stack.
The Browning Hi-Power for starters then several S&W revolvers that I'd hate to see melted down even tho I'm primarily and auto-pistol guy. Also a H&K VP70 which aren't very common but still an interesting piece. The VP70 was the first polymer frame handgun and was introduced in 1970, BTW....

It reminds me. A few years go they had a gun buyback near here and they would give anyone that turned one in something like a pair of sneakers. Ironically, that same Saturday there was a gun show in the same complex. People going o turn a gun in had to walk past the building where the gun show was. Of course, some of them with two brain cells to rub together decided to seek a better offer than a pair of sneakers so they went in and sold their gun if they had something of interest. Some had offers made on what they were carrying before they even went in.


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28 Dec 2012, 10:13 pm

abacacus wrote:
As long as it's a voluntary thing, I don't see the issue here. I think gun buybacks are a good way to get guns out of the hands of people who don't want them.

What we do up here in my area is an amnesty day. If you have an illegal gun, or just a gun you want gone, you call the station and bring it in. No matter what the weapon is, they take it and out you go, no questions asked.


So if I brought in an autocannon, a rocket launcher, stinger missiles or perhaps an anti-tank missile launcher, they'd be quite happy to accept that no questions asked?



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28 Dec 2012, 10:16 pm

Tequila wrote:
abacacus wrote:
As long as it's a voluntary thing, I don't see the issue here. I think gun buybacks are a good way to get guns out of the hands of people who don't want them.

What we do up here in my area is an amnesty day. If you have an illegal gun, or just a gun you want gone, you call the station and bring it in. No matter what the weapon is, they take it and out you go, no questions asked.


So if I brought in an autocannon, a rocket launcher, stinger missiles or perhaps an anti-tank missile launcher, they'd be quite happy to accept that no questions asked?


Let me qualify my previous statement with "within reason." :lol:

They'd take them, I can pretty much guarantee that, but there would be questions asked. For one, they'd be asking all the local military bases to check and make sure nothing is missing.

However, they wouldn't be able to charge you with anything. Amnesty is guaranteed, no exceptions.


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28 Dec 2012, 10:22 pm

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As long as it's a voluntary thing, I don't see the issue here. I think gun buybacks are a good way to get guns out of the hands of people who don't want them.

What we do up here in my area is an amnesty day. If you have an illegal gun, or just a gun you want gone, you call the station and bring it in. No matter what the weapon is, they take it and out you go, no questions asked.


So if I brought in an autocannon, a rocket launcher, stinger missiles or perhaps an anti-tank missile launcher, they'd be quite happy to accept that no questions asked?


Let me qualify my previous statement with "within reason." :lol:

They'd take them, I can pretty much guarantee that, but there would be questions asked. For one, they'd be asking all the local military bases to check and make sure nothing is missing.

However, they wouldn't be able to charge you with anything. Amnesty is guaranteed, no exceptions.


I'd love to see the abject fear on their faces when dealing with someone with a massive cache of explosives...



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28 Dec 2012, 10:24 pm

Tequila wrote:
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As long as it's a voluntary thing, I don't see the issue here. I think gun buybacks are a good way to get guns out of the hands of people who don't want them.

What we do up here in my area is an amnesty day. If you have an illegal gun, or just a gun you want gone, you call the station and bring it in. No matter what the weapon is, they take it and out you go, no questions asked.


So if I brought in an autocannon, a rocket launcher, stinger missiles or perhaps an anti-tank missile launcher, they'd be quite happy to accept that no questions asked?


Let me qualify my previous statement with "within reason." :lol:

They'd take them, I can pretty much guarantee that, but there would be questions asked. For one, they'd be asking all the local military bases to check and make sure nothing is missing.

However, they wouldn't be able to charge you with anything. Amnesty is guaranteed, no exceptions.


I'd love to see the abject fear on their faces when dealing with someone with a massive cache of explosives...


Boxes of grenades have been brought in before. So have mortar shells. I imagine they're pretty hard to get a rise out of by now.


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28 Dec 2012, 10:30 pm

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Boxes of grenades have been brought in before. So have mortar shells. I imagine they're pretty hard to get a rise out of by now.


Oh, come on - someone's going to have to rise to the challenge and bring in the total projectile weaponry of South Bongobongoland in at some point. I'll be disappointed if they don't.



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28 Dec 2012, 10:30 pm

I don't see this as a problem. I think turning in a broken gun would be a good idea.



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28 Dec 2012, 10:34 pm

Tequila wrote:
abacacus wrote:
As long as it's a voluntary thing, I don't see the issue here. I think gun buybacks are a good way to get guns out of the hands of people who don't want them.

What we do up here in my area is an amnesty day. If you have an illegal gun, or just a gun you want gone, you call the station and bring it in. No matter what the weapon is, they take it and out you go, no questions asked.


So if I brought in an autocannon, a rocket launcher, stinger missiles or perhaps an anti-tank missile launcher, they'd be quite happy to accept that no questions asked?

All those items have turned up at some time during a buyback. How they got there is anyone's guess because they let them get turned in no questions asked.


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29 Dec 2012, 5:13 am

I'm sure people would get a little nervous with seemingly live grenades showing up. Explosives generally don't give a damn which way they're pointed, only whether you're within a certain distance (usually safe to assume old stuff isn't in the best of conditions either). Amnesty is amnesty though.

They probably have EOD on hand for these things.



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30 Dec 2012, 1:30 am

i just heard on CNN that they did take in two granade launchers at the buy back.


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30 Dec 2012, 2:15 am

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i just heard on CNN that they did take in two granade launchers at the buy back.


Not Exactly.

What got turned in were two already-launched disposable single-fire launchers which are impossible to reload.

Essentially like bringing in a giant empty shell casing.

They were scrap metal. Interesting scrap metal, but just scrap metal.



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30 Dec 2012, 2:17 am

PM wrote:
http://www.dailybreeze.com/news/ci_22262112/lapds-gun-buyback-off-busy-start-van-nuys?source=rss

How the mighty have fallen.

Of course, i'm not blaming the average officer, the administration is to blame for this fiasco. Most cops want you to be armed, it makes their job easier.


The most recent LAPD chief used to b***h endlessly to the media about claims that legal gun owners were the cause of crime...until a couple low level cartel stooges stole 18 MP5 machine guns and 18 very high end .45 automatics from a SWAT training facility and they ended up Mexico. :roll:


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30 Dec 2012, 3:05 am

John_Browning wrote:
PM wrote:
http://www.dailybreeze.com/news/ci_22262112/lapds-gun-buyback-off-busy-start-van-nuys?source=rss

How the mighty have fallen.

Of course, i'm not blaming the average officer, the administration is to blame for this fiasco. Most cops want you to be armed, it makes their job easier.


The most recent LAPD chief used to b***h endlessly to the media about claims that legal gun owners were the cause of crime...until a couple low level cartel stooges stole 18 MP5 machine guns and 18 very high end .45 automatics from a SWAT training facility and they ended up Mexico. :roll:


He's still not wrong - As soon as those weapons were stolen they weren't legally owned by those who possessed them, right?

We had an elementary school kid out here a couple weeks ago who brought a handgun to school "for protection". He got expelled for it. I think nothing at all should have happened to the kid for his behavior - nothing more than a 15 minute chat with a psychiatrist at the most.

But his parents should be flogged in public for leaving handguns around where their kid can get them.



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30 Dec 2012, 4:01 am

blauSamstag wrote:
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PM wrote:
http://www.dailybreeze.com/news/ci_22262112/lapds-gun-buyback-off-busy-start-van-nuys?source=rss

How the mighty have fallen.

Of course, i'm not blaming the average officer, the administration is to blame for this fiasco. Most cops want you to be armed, it makes their job easier.


The most recent LAPD chief used to b***h endlessly to the media about claims that legal gun owners were the cause of crime...until a couple low level cartel stooges stole 18 MP5 machine guns and 18 very high end .45 automatics from a SWAT training facility and they ended up Mexico. :roll:


He's still not wrong - As soon as those weapons were stolen they weren't legally owned by those who possessed them, right?

We had an elementary school kid out here a couple weeks ago who brought a handgun to school "for protection". He got expelled for it. I think nothing at all should have happened to the kid for his behavior - nothing more than a 15 minute chat with a psychiatrist at the most.

But his parents should be flogged in public for leaving handguns around where their kid can get them.

Straw dealers are the leading source of illegal guns here even in spite of handgun registration and mandatory reporting of stolen guns. Somehow hardly any thug's babymamma ever gets busted after a gun suspected of being used in a crime is recovered even though many don't think to obliterate serial numbers.


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