Yet *another* 'Asian' child rape ring trial here in the UK

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17 Jan 2013, 11:22 am

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Sex Ring Trial: Girls 'Endured Extreme Abuse'
  • The Old Bailey is told "out-of-control" children as young as 11 were targeted and given drugs to exploit their vulnerability.
Six vulnerable girls were systematically targeted, given drugs by a paedophile ring and forced to endure sex abuse that was "perverted in the extreme" for long periods of time, a court has heard.

The Old Bailey has been told that youngsters, some as young as 11, would be plied with alcohol and then given drugs like heroin and crack cocaine before being assaulted.

The abuse was allegedly carried out by men in the Oxford area.

The trial is ongoing, but the men are said to have branded one of the girls with the initials of one of the rapists. Another event was a girl who was burned with a lighter and threatened if she didn't have sex with the men. Yet another incident concerns another girl who was forced to have a back-street abortion due to being impregnated by her rapists.

Who are the defendants?
  • Kamar Jamil, 27, of Aldwych Road, Oxford
  • Akhtar Dogar, 32, of Tawney Street, Oxford; and his brother Anjum Dogar, 30, of Tawney Street, Oxford
  • Assad Hussain, 32, of Ashurst Way, Oxford
  • Mohammed Karrar, 38, of Kames Close, Oxford; and his brother Bassam Karrar, 33, of Hundred Acres Close, Oxford
  • Mohammed Hussain, 24, of Horspath Road, Oxford
  • Zeeshan Ahmed, 27, of Palmer Road, Oxford
  • Bilal Ahmed, 26, of Suffolk Road, Maidenhead
No further comment necessary apart from a) to note the fact that this is, what, the fourth Islamic child rape gang trial in the last couple of years. Previous incidences have been in South Yorkshire, West Yorkshire and Rochdale and that's just those I can remember and to confirm that b) yes, there are plenty - oh, plenty - of child rapists of all races and religions, but most rapists don't target vulnerable young girls specifically because of their not being of the same faith/race.



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17 Jan 2013, 11:47 am

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The men are all of either Pakistani or north African descent. According to the authorities the youngsters alleged to have been abused are all "vulnerable white British girls".


From your title, I thought that they were going after Asian girls.



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17 Jan 2013, 11:57 am

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From your title, I thought that they were going after Asian girls.


No, not at all - these are 'Asian' (read: Muslim) men going after mainly white British girls purely because they see non-Muslim girls as inferior and sex objects. White British girls in care would most likely be the most visible, and probably the most vulnerable, non-Muslims that they could find. In other cases, Hindu and Sikh girls have also been attacked, because they see any girl not dressed from head to toe in black as like uncovered meat.

I deliberately put the word 'Asian' in the title because that's the phrase used by cowardly and dishonest politicians and the media. It's not 'Asians' that are the problem (Hindu and Sikh men have nothing at all to do with these disgusting sex crimes). No - ALL the men responsible - ALL of them - are Muslim men, and they are mainly of Pakistani origin.



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17 Jan 2013, 12:12 pm

Tequila wrote:
ArrantPariah wrote:
From your title, I thought that they were going after Asian girls.


No, not at all - these are 'Asian' (read: Muslim) men going after mainly white British girls purely because they see non-Muslim girls as inferior and sex objects. White British girls in care would most likely be the most visible, and probably the most vulnerable, non-Muslims that they could find. In other cases, Hindu and Sikh girls have also been attacked, because they see any girl not dressed from head to toe in black as like uncovered meat.

I deliberately put the word 'Asian' in the title because that's the phrase used by cowardly and dishonest politicians and the media. It's not 'Asians' that are the problem (Hindu and Sikh men have nothing at all to do with these disgusting sex crimes). No - ALL the men responsible - ALL of them - are Muslim men, and they are mainly of Pakistani origin.


In most of the USA, we don't have a lot of Moslems. One exception is the Detroit area. We don't have a huge number of Asian-Indians either, except in the computer and technology industries.

When we hear the term "Asian", we are usually thinking "East Asian" (China, Japan, etc.).



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17 Jan 2013, 12:15 pm

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In most of the USA, we don't have a lot of Moslems.


Consider yourselves lucky. Make sure you keep it that way.



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17 Jan 2013, 12:16 pm

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When we hear the term "Asian", we are usually thinking "East Asian" (China, Japan, etc.).


In Britain, 'Asian' means South Asian - i.e. India, Pakistan, Bangladesh (and possibly Sri Lankans too, but there aren't many of those). Basically, immigrants from former British India.

East Asian immigrants would generally just be called Chinese, Korean, Japanese, Taiwanese etc etc.



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17 Jan 2013, 12:51 pm

Well, that's your Commonwealth, or is it called something else, now?

Don't they get priority in migration?

For example, I think that if a Canadian job were being advertised internationally, then a Pakistani would receive priority over me.



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17 Jan 2013, 12:59 pm

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Well, that's your Commonwealth, or is it called something else, now?

Don't they get priority in migration?


They do get some special privileges that non-Commonwealth citizens do not get, yes.



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17 Jan 2013, 1:08 pm

Our only major ex-Colony is the Philippines. Lots of Filipinos would like to migrate here, but they don't get any special priority for living in a country that used to be US territory. Unless they can fill a job that is in demand (like nursing, at least until recently), or if they can marry an American.

Guamese, Puerto Ricans, and American Samoans can come here any time they want.



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17 Jan 2013, 1:14 pm

That makes sense, as those territories you mentioned are still under American sovereignty.

I'm not necessarily against citizens of some countries that we still have a very close relationship with having freedom of entry to the UK. I just don't see why countries that we actually have very little in common culturally get undeserved special treatment for immigration purposes.



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17 Jan 2013, 2:54 pm

Tequila wrote:
That makes sense, as those territories you mentioned are still under American sovereignty.

I'm not necessarily against citizens of some countries that we still have a very close relationship with having freedom of entry to the UK. I just don't see why countries that we actually have very little in common culturally get undeserved special treatment for immigration purposes.


They may have felt the same when migrants were going the other direction.

Are there any plans for rethinking the Commonwealth?



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17 Jan 2013, 3:11 pm

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Are there any plans for rethinking the Commonwealth?


I don't see any real reason to do that. It'll be very useful for launching a free trade area if we leave the EU. I just think we need to tighten up the UK's immigration laws as regards places like Pakistan.