look at what these famous non muslims say about muhammad

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19 Jan 2013, 4:10 pm

http://www.cyberistan.org/islamic/quote1.html#gandhi

Before people label him a terrorist, i suggest you look at what these famous non muslims, including Ghandi have to say about Prophet Muhammad (PBUH). even ghandi praised him after reading his biography. fact. why would a peaceful man praise a terrorist? or was he a terrorist? These famous people were well respected intellectuals, open minded and fair people, and the fact that they were non muslims makes their account even more unbiased. please open the above link and take your time to read what they have to say about Muhammad (PBUH)



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19 Jan 2013, 4:29 pm

I didn't say he was a terrorist. I said he was an Arab warlord.

He was also a child slaver, child rapist, and mass murderer with a serious mental problem.

That the sort of guy you want to emulate?

It would be like me saying I wanted to emulate Charles Martel, or a 18th century American slave-owner, or Fred West, or...



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19 Jan 2013, 4:49 pm

^^
This.



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19 Jan 2013, 4:49 pm

salad wrote:
why would a peaceful man praise a terrorist?


Ghandi had his hands full trying to stop hindus and muslims from fighting each other. His aim was independance for India and as long as muslims and hindus didn't get along, Britain had a good excuse to rule over India. He nearly starved himself to death because hindus and muslims alike didn't heed his call to make peace with each other, so the last thing he would have done was say anything that might annoy muslims.



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19 Jan 2013, 5:47 pm

Tequila wrote:
I didn't say he was a terrorist. I said he was an Arab warlord.

He was also a child slaver, child rapist, and mass murderer with a serious mental problem.

That the sort of guy you want to emulate?

It would be like me saying I wanted to emulate Charles Martel, or a 18th century American slave-owner, or Fred West, or...


Child slaver?? He used to treat his slaves as if they were his own children, to the point where most of his slaves cried when he freed them. he never abused his slaves, he fed, clothed and housed them and treated them with honor and respect.

rapist?? Aisha reached the age of puberty and married her, that isn't rape.

warlord?? he was being attack and targeted from day one, the non muslims openly declared war on the Muslims, he was a freedom fighter and a hero more like. And yes, I would like to emulate him, I and every Muslim out there loves him more than our own parents, and he was the greatest creation of God. problem?? read his biography and maybe you'll understand why everybody, including many famous Non muslims love and admire him Michael H Hart, a christian, wrote a book titled the 100 most influential persons in history and he placed Muhammad PBUH on the very top of the list, meaning he was number 1 on the list.



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19 Jan 2013, 5:49 pm

NewDawn wrote:
salad wrote:
why would a peaceful man praise a terrorist?


Ghandi had his hands full trying to stop hindus and muslims from fighting each other. His aim was independance for India and as long as muslims and hindus didn't get along, Britain had a good excuse to rule over India. He nearly starved himself to death because hindus and muslims alike didn't heed his call to make peace with each other, so the last thing he would have done was say anything that might annoy muslims.


you have no evidence of his claim being bias.

also, Ghandi wasn't the only person on the website, there are many famous non muslims who have praised him



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19 Jan 2013, 5:55 pm

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rapist?? Aisha reached the age of puberty and married her, that isn't rape.


He married Aisha when she was 6 - she "discovered that she was married" to Muhammad - hardly consensual, I'd have said - and had sex (rape) with her when she was 9. Marrying off six year olds to disgusting fat old men is still considered OK in places like Saudi Arabia and they use the excuse that the Prophet did it. And you wonder why many people dislike Islam as much as they do in the West!

In the modern world, Islam legitimises forcible marriage and rape of children (if Muhammad did it, it's OK). A religion to be proud of, for sure.

If I raped a nine year old and the police found out about it, I would never be let out of prison.



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19 Jan 2013, 6:01 pm

It's curious to me that adherents of a religion seem to focus so much of their worship on the founder of the religion. It's pretty damaging to the credibility of the religion.



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19 Jan 2013, 6:02 pm

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If I raped a nine year old and the police found out about it, I would never be let out of prison.


And the other prisoners would give you the "short eyes" treatment. Your life in prison would be nasty, brutish and short.

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19 Jan 2013, 6:04 pm

adb wrote:
It's curious to me that adherents of a religion seem to focus so much of their worship on the founder of the religion. It's pretty damaging to the credibility of the religion.


It's a personality cult, not a religion. Muslims seem to worship Muhammad more than they do Allah himself.



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19 Jan 2013, 6:13 pm

Muhammad also had plenty of good things to say about Jesus. He thought Jesus was way cool.


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19 Jan 2013, 6:16 pm

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Muhammad also had plenty of good things to say about Jesus. He thought Jesus was way cool.


To try to lend some figleaf of legitimacy to his new cult in the eyes of Christians and others.



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19 Jan 2013, 6:51 pm

Tequila wrote:
DarthMetaKnight wrote:
Muhammad also had plenty of good things to say about Jesus. He thought Jesus was way cool.


To try to lend some figleaf of legitimacy to his new cult in the eyes of Christians and others.


And God said unto him as the Angel in the cave, "Go unite the tribes of Arabia and give them the God of Israel".
And so the prophet Muhammad united the tribes of Arabia, and gave unto them the God of Israel.



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19 Jan 2013, 7:04 pm

The muslim equivalent of Jesus? Who if depicted in cartoons or drawn causes riots and killings?


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19 Jan 2013, 7:14 pm

Tequila wrote:
DarthMetaKnight wrote:
Muhammad also had plenty of good things to say about Jesus. He thought Jesus was way cool.


To try to lend some figleaf of legitimacy to his new cult in the eyes of Christians and others.


Only a prophet of the Lord could unite the tribes of Arabia, and give them a spiritual path based upon peace.
A path that is revered to this day, as it should be.



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19 Jan 2013, 7:17 pm

ripped wrote:
A path that is revered to this day, as it should be.


By the master race? It's not revered by me or millions of others on this planet.