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....if they ever gain power, have to dissolve their own government on principle?

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No they wouldn't. I think you, and most of society, have been brainwashed to see anarchy the wrong way. It is NOT about disorganisation and chaos. Anarchist communities, are set in small community settings as opposed to large governments. They have the equality and anti-capitolism of communism, and the freedom (perhaps moreso) of democracy. Essentially people get together in the community and decide who'se going to be their doctors, lawyers, police officers, soldiers, teachers, firemen, etc etc. The community will also vote to delegate their leaders, but should a leader prove either ineffective or corrupt, the people would have the ability to remove him and replace him. It is a trade-based system, laws are subject to be made amoung the people, but there are no real politics in it. But that doesn't mean it's disorganized.

anarchists do it in small popular assemblies and community cooperation.


for ACTUAL examples of anarchism in action, look up stuff on the teacher strikes and popular assemblies of Oaxaca, Mexico (that's going on right now!), the worker takeovers of factories in Argentina following their economic collapse in 2001-2002, and last, but certainly not least, the Zapatista movement based in Chiapas, Mexico, which declared that region outside the jurisdiction of the mexican government and have been fighting to keep it under the control of the community who actually live there as opposed to an all encompassing State.

see infoshop.org for more information on anarchism and current anarchist movements!! !

what is happening in mexico at the moment is very interesting. it also says a lot that we hear pretty much nothing about it in the mainstream media.

Central and Southern America in general is really killing the rest of the world in terms of radically political movements. I attibute this to abuses of NAFTA/IMF/WTO and neo-liberal politics in general, which many of those countries embraced hoping it would put them on the map, but instead just put them into insurmountable debt.

Argentina was one of the richest countries in the world, but was not a major political player because it didn't appeal to many major multinational corporations, so they borrowed billions from the IMF/World Bank to beef up their country and make it more pretty to these corporations. Things were awesome until the IMF started asking for their money back, and when Argentina couldn't do it right away, IMF freezed all the banks in the country, the working and middle classes had no money, tons of companies went under because bosses pulled out of the country when they sensed political disarray, leaving millions unemployed. ANYONE would become radically charged after that! Former business men were setting fire to banks after that, it was crazy. I know a lot of people who have travelled down there and they were saying that the people down there have developed basically anarchist systems of organizing communities to keep from complete chaos happening, like no leaders but rather getting together in neighborhood groups and deciding together what is best for their community. And when the government tried to tell them it was not ok to politically organize like this, they took up slingshots, rocks, guns, knives, and fought back!

oh, i would totally agree that the abuse that the "capitalist world establishment", if you will, is no doubt the cause of the tendency toward radical politics in south america. argentina in particular has had a strong anarchist movement for some time, since at least early in the 20th century.

the problem in the capitalist nations is that the populations have been so brainwashed by the spectacle of capitalist life that they think there is no other option in terms of political or social systems. most of us have been basically beaten into submission and apathy by the system. and this is a fairly recent thing, i mean look at spain before franco siezed power, or even france in may 68 for a more recent example.

and then there is the whole line of thought on sexual politics and psychology, how this relates to fascism, and the relationship between fascism and capitalism, which would really merit starting a new thread for discussing.

veronica, you might already be familiar with this site, but i thought i'd post you the link anyway:

http://www.point-of-departure.org/Point ... -entry.htm

there is a lot of different stuff on there, ranging from anarchist thought to critical theory and suchlike. thought you may be interested.

thanks Peebo, I'll check it out!