Another good reason not to donate to Comic Relief

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13 Mar 2013, 1:12 pm

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Comic Relief Provides Funds for Extremist Groups

Every year since 1985, the British charity Comic Relief has held a high-profile fundraising telethon called Red Nose Day. Since its creation, Comic Relief has raised £800 million from mass public donations and corporate sponsors, which has gone to over 15,000 different charitable projects based both in the UK and abroad. On 15thMarch, the 2013 Red Nose Day telethon will distribute more millions of pounds. Does all this money go to reputable causes?

The most serious problem with Red Nose Day is that the public, whose donations are then matched by the UK government, have no idea where the money will go. Donations are kept by Comic Relief and then distributed, in the form of grants, to a list of charities not finalized until months after the event. At the time of the telethon, most of the public donate in the name of charitable good, and not to any particular project. We can, however, get some idea of where the money goes by looking at the past recipients of Comic Relief funds.

War on Want, for example, is a leading British charity that has received just under £1.5 million of Comic Relief’s funds. It has also obtained just under half a million pounds from the European Commission and about £160,000 from the British Government. The stated aims of War on Want include the promise “to relieve global poverty however caused through working in partnership with people throughout the world.” Such a claim suggests a forward-thinking organization that acts in the interest of progress and prosperity; regrettably, the opposite is true.



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13 Mar 2013, 2:43 pm

source?


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13 Mar 2013, 2:47 pm

Link takes you to Harry's Place, a left-wing blog.



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13 Mar 2013, 2:47 pm

thomas81 wrote:
source?

Follow the link. :roll:

@Tequila: This is an example of why my contribution to charity is personal involvement, rather than a blind cheque, and why nearly all of my charitable contributions are within a short drive of my home.



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13 Mar 2013, 2:52 pm

Fnord wrote:
@Tequila: This is an example of why my contribution to charity is personal involvement, rather than a blind cheque, and why nearly all of my charitable contributions are within a short drive of my home.


Indeed. I very rarely give to charity at all these days, but I'm happy to give to good causes.

This being a case in point:

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I must join the National Secular Society at some point too.

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13 Mar 2013, 3:30 pm

Hm...

Well, it's certainly easier to rally people this way.


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13 Mar 2013, 3:58 pm

on closer inspection, the 'left wing blog' appears to be another hysterical zionist shitrant exploiting people's ignorance on the middle east to further its partisan agenda.

don't worry Tequila, since you aren't contributing I'll donate an extra tenner on your behalf, I'll even leave a message "from Tequila C/O Wrong Planet, lots of love, Tequila" lol


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13 Mar 2013, 4:11 pm

Tequila wrote:
Fnord wrote:
@Tequila: This is an example of why my contribution to charity is personal involvement, rather than a blind cheque, and why nearly all of my charitable contributions are within a short drive of my home.


Indeed. I very rarely give to charity at all these days, but I'm happy to give to good causes.

This being a case in point:

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I must join the National Secular Society at some point too.

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They named the wine after a rifle? Hmm, works for me.

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13 Mar 2013, 4:15 pm

[quote="thomas81"]on closer inspection, the 'left wing blog' appears to be another hysterical zionist shitrant exploiting people's ignorance on the middle east to further its partisan agenda.[/qupte]

If anyone is hysterical and ranting and foaming at the mouth, it's you. No-one else.

Definitely a fallacy. So people that support Israel's right to exist can't be left-wing?

What a very twisted specimen you really are.

Yes, they're a centre-left, pro-Israel blog. If you read their economic views of the people on it, they certainly tend towards the left.

Next you're going to tell me you think Meretz are right-wing...



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13 Mar 2013, 4:16 pm

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They named the wine after a rifle? Hmm, works for me.

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It's an Israeli wine from the Barkan Winery that takes its grapes from vineyards all over Israel, including the Golan Heights.



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13 Mar 2013, 4:24 pm

Not that you didnt post this to provoke or anything, but the grapes are probably fertilised by the blood of arab children that once played innocently through the vinyards.
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Don't let me put you off your tipple of course. :roll:


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13 Mar 2013, 5:40 pm

Tequila, you have lost my respect.

These sick charities may well have hijacked Comic Relief funds to their own twisted ends

but You sir are far worse. You are now actively discouraging Britain from its light hearted fundraising efforts, from its chance to prove to the world the priority it holds in helping those in poverty because money you never donated MAY go to a charity you don't politically agree with.

Those charities had to seek funding to. survive, you NEVER had to discourage us from donating or publicly link the appeal to this riff raff & YOU DID IT ANYWAY!



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13 Mar 2013, 6:37 pm

thomas81 wrote:
Not that you didnt post this to provoke or anything, but the grapes are probably fertilised by the blood of arab children that once played innocently through the vinyards.
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Do carry on, I don't want to spoil your antisemitic tropery.

(And, by the way - the red wine (see! It must be the blood of Palestinian children! They must bottle it!) was absolutely delicious. Very spicy but quite light, and as you can see, heavy on the alcohol.

I bought it to boycott Israel Apartheid Week. I bought three more bottles to give to my mother. She loved the wine. (And she's not particularly Zionist, or even really cares about Israel.)

You could always retaliate by buying something Palestinian... I don't know, a suicide bomber vest? Or a keffiyeh? Not exactly showing the best of Palestinian ingenuity, is it?

Can you think of something produced solely by Palestinians that doesn't have to do with conflict and violence? I personally very much fancied trying Taybeh beer, for instance. Unfortunately, I read that the owner of the brewery has had crap from the more 'enthusiastic' Muslims in the past over his beer. I can't imagine it's easy for him as a brewer in that part of the world.

In fact, I'd love that. Just think - a beer night made up of the best of Israeli and Palestinian beer. The Israeli craft beer industry is quite small, and the Palestinian one is basically that one brewery, but it's a start. I'll drink Taybeh with you if you drink Negev stout with me.

Believe me, I'd love to see a thriving, prosperous Palestinian business industry. An end to violence can only be a good thing in order for them to flourish. The Israelis would happily aid them in their quest but a genuinely free, liberal Palestinian state that had renounced terrorism, racism and hostility towards Israel would be a joy to behold. Peaceful coexistence is what I want.

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These sick charities may well have hijacked Comic Relief funds to their own twisted ends


I've never liked Comic Relief anyway. It's saccharine, patronising BS. But you're factually wrong here. The funds are divided up months after the show, and very few people outside Comic Relief actually know who these funds are going to.

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You are now actively discouraging Britain from its light hearted fundraising effort


I'd call it patronising and colonial and not very open to scrutiny, but that's just me.

You go right ahead and donate to it if you like, but you could make your donation much more effective if you researched the charities you wanted to give to beforehand and then just give to them.

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you never donated MAY go to a charity you don't politically agree with.


My point is that charities shouldn't be political. If they're going to be political, then they shouldn't have charitable status. I have a long list of charities that, personally, shouldn't have charitable status.