Polarization of what "elite" is prefaced with

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19 Mar 2013, 10:28 pm

Conservatives like append the word "agenda" after anything they don't like. The left uses "interests" or "lobby" in a similar way. Also, strangely the prefix "neo" has become negative on the left.



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24 Mar 2013, 1:22 am

marshall wrote:
Conservatives like append the word "agenda" after anything they don't like. The left uses "interests" or "lobby" in a similar way. Also, strangely the prefix "neo" has become negative on the left.

People need to stop thinking in terms of "left" and "right", that's not going to get you anywhere. It's just that I see a lot of people talking about "Left" and "right" when that has nothing to do with it. As long as you keep thinking that way, no matter what you see or hear about the Government, you wont be able to understand everything if you keep thinking of it as just two sides, one side wanting one thing and the other side wanting something different. So it's harder to keep an open mind.



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24 Mar 2013, 11:30 pm

Redstar2613 wrote:
marshall wrote:
Conservatives like append the word "agenda" after anything they don't like. The left uses "interests" or "lobby" in a similar way. Also, strangely the prefix "neo" has become negative on the left.

People need to stop thinking in terms of "left" and "right", that's not going to get you anywhere. It's just that I see a lot of people talking about "Left" and "right" when that has nothing to do with it. As long as you keep thinking that way, no matter what you see or hear about the Government, you wont be able to understand everything if you keep thinking of it as just two sides, one side wanting one thing and the other side wanting something different. So it's harder to keep an open mind.

Good luck with that. I think if there was an easy answer that pleased everyone we wouldn't have political parties. We put politicians in office so that we have someone else to direct our hatred and blame our problems on. It's like a pageant really. Instead of raping and pillaging our neighbors for survival we get to vote for "politicians" who try to set the rules up for how everything gets doled out and who gets to benefit off the other. Because there are laws we get to blame the ones who make the laws instead of each other for being greedy selfish bastards. If it weren't for the universally despised politicians the rich and the poor would start killing each other directly because there would be no more scapegoats to blame. In the end it must still all be about competing over resources and power. Everything else is just a clever rationalization, or worse, snake-oil.



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25 Mar 2013, 11:54 am

Redstar2613 wrote:
marshall wrote:
Conservatives like append the word "agenda" after anything they don't like. The left uses "interests" or "lobby" in a similar way. Also, strangely the prefix "neo" has become negative on the left.

People need to stop thinking in terms of "left" and "right", that's not going to get you anywhere. It's just that I see a lot of people talking about "Left" and "right" when that has nothing to do with it. As long as you keep thinking that way, no matter what you see or hear about the Government, you wont be able to understand everything if you keep thinking of it as just two sides, one side wanting one thing and the other side wanting something different. So it's harder to keep an open mind.


The talking heads also use a lot of mild pseudospeciation and stereotyping of the other side. In reality, if you go to a particular region, you will see that the Democrats and Republicans in that area aren't that different from each other. Here in Tennessee, the everyday Democrat isn't that different from the everyday Republican; here Democrats tend to be more conservative. I imagine that in more liberal areas, like up North, Republicans tend to be more liberal than their Southern counterparts.

Regardless of this, the talking heads try to make people think that the other side is totally different from them, which just isn't true for the most part.