Why is everone making a fuss about gay marriage?

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If you ask me, both sides are really F'ed up. Some conservatives want government to be in bed with them, and same with liberals, plus they want privilege status for gays and lesbians. To me, why can't we just throw out LEGAL marriage, and allow everyone sort out the rest out? And I believe gays should be able to marry, but at the same time, business owners and church should be able to opt out. And honestly, I could give a rip one way or another, and I think we should seriously consider liberalizing some of our sex laws, such as polygamy & age of consent, in addition to allowing gay marriage. But I just have a problem with giving them special status. Hell, if that is the case, why can't I be in a special class, since I am Irish and have aspergers? Both groups have been discriminated against, and deserve compensation. Or what about me being single? Why should married people get special tax breaks? I think it is BS on both sides.

For most, it's a religious issue...

How is getting the right to marry a special privilege if everyone else already has it? Isn't that called "making things even?"

I agree that government should not be involved in marriage at all, the entire reason marriage licenses were made was to discriminate(particularly against interracial couples). However the government is currently involved in marriage and thus gay marriage should be recognized as well.

I completely agree, and I am glad someone sees it the same way I do.
The preoccupation with sex in government is getting to be quite annoying.

I'll just be glad when the issue is finally settled, one way or the other, so that the winners can cheer and have their parades, the losers can hide and lick their wounds, and the rest of us can get on with our lives.

Inaccurate. The first such "licenses" were introduced in medieval Europe as a way of getting a little money out of the wealthy (similar to voluptuary taxes); usually it was the rich getting married anyway, in order to sort out matters of inheritance (not typically a big problem for a medieval peasant). It wasn't until the 14th century that the Catholic Church (then just called "the Church") got involved in the matter; prior to that, it had been dismissed as a "worldly matter", not something the Church should be involved in. Then a baron wanted a bishop to consecrate his marriage - a cynic might say that the Church then realized they had an untapped market for new "donations", but in any event they started getting into the whole thing in a big way about then.

Interracial couples in the US were usually discriminated against in the old traditional way - lynching, beatings, and burnings.

Are we really worried about this social issue crap while our economy is still in a shambles? Our priorities are completely insane. If two guys or two girls want to hook up I don't really give a s**t. We need jobs!!

I think the charge that gays are being given special rights is a bogeyman created by the anti-gay brigade. Equal rights aren't special rights.

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer

I expect they want the rights of any couple - to be next of kin, to inherit, to legitimise a loving relationship, to satisfy their religious feelings.

I personally don't do marriage, but can't see the point of denying it to other people.

You would think homophobes would support it - doesn't sex end when the ring is on the finger?

Even if sex didnt end then you would think that social conservatives would prefer monogomous gays to promiscuious gays ( ie married ones to singles) as the lesser of two evils atleast.

Because conservatives, still have their M16s. ^^

Why is same sex marriage a big deal to me? Because death taxes are stoopid. It's double taxation if you ask me. Repealing DOMA is a way to end this nonsense bit by bit.

It isn't one or the other. Legalising gay marriage won't stop the economy getting better.

I think marriage is a bit of a strange institution, but it gives people a certain amount of security.

Last edited by The_Walrus on 27 Mar 2013, 5:48 pm, edited 1 time in total.

How is anything that's going on giving gay people "special status"?

The two questions being decided right now are basically:

a) can gay people marry? If the answer's yes, then they have the same status as everyone else, there's nothing special about it. If the answer is no, then they have less status as everyone else, and there's nothing "special" about that.

b) if gay people can marry, are they entitled to the same benefits and protections as other married couples? Again if the answer is yes, they have no more special status than anyone else. If the answer is no, then they have less status than everyone else.

Where I do agree with you is that the law and taxes should not apply differently to people who are married versus people who are not. That is what makes no sense here but that is a broader issue that's got no more or less to do with gay people than it has to do with straight people.