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19 Apr 2013, 11:13 am

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Ohio Catholic school teacher fired after ‘appalled’ parent learned she was gay

More than 15,000 from the Columbus area and even abroad sign petition urging physical education teacher Carla Hale’s reinstatement.

[b]An Ohio woman was fired from her job of 19 years at a Catholic high school after being outed as gay.

But the Columbus, Ohio, community has rallied around Carla Hale, circulating a petition urging her reinstatement to Bishop Watterson High School.

“It’s amazing that they’ve come together and rallied around this situation,” Hale told the Columbus Dispatch. “I’m in awe of them.”

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19 Apr 2013, 12:37 pm

It's stupid. But it's a private school. They should be allowed to fire anyone they want for any reason.

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19 Apr 2013, 12:46 pm

The Religion of Tolerance strikes again.

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19 Apr 2013, 2:53 pm

Being a private school they can do that. Period.

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19 Apr 2013, 3:00 pm

Raptor wrote:

Being a private school they can do that. Period.

Not here they wouldn't. It would be seen as an illegal and outrageous act of discrimination.

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19 Apr 2013, 3:21 pm

So private schools can fire people for any reason, but other businesses can't? I can't image Apple or McDonald's firing all gays or Jews.
Though I think it is strange that reverse isn't true. I could resign from an employer and tell him "I don't want to work for you because you are gay/Jewish/Muslim/disabled".

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20 Apr 2013, 10:28 am

Anti-discrimination laws are a violation of property rights.

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20 Apr 2013, 10:58 am

Tequila wrote:

Raptor wrote:

Being a private school they can do that. Period.

Not here they wouldn't. It would be seen as an illegal and outrageous act of discrimination.

I think in the UK now anyone can be fired for any reason if they have been employed for less than 2 years.

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20 Apr 2013, 2:45 pm

Tequila wrote:

Not here they wouldn't. It would be seen as an illegal and outrageous act of discrimination.

Here it's merely an outrageous act of discrimination.

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20 Apr 2013, 2:48 pm

In Canada, at least, a lot of private "independent" religious schools receive some public funding. In Ontario, there was a hoopla over partially publicly funded Catholic schools' opposition to Gay-Straight Alliances.

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20 Apr 2013, 3:14 pm

If it's a "right to work" state they won't need to give a reason. Makes it harder to prove discrimination.

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20 Apr 2013, 4:58 pm

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If it's a "right to work" state they won't need to give a reason. Makes it harder to prove discrimination.

You have that mixed up with "At-will employment" laws. "Right to Work" is the term allowing employment without having to join a union, and is not pertinent here.

All states have "at-will employment" laws, which allow the employer or employee to sever employment for any or no reason at all. There are exceptions for anti-discrimination laws, and in some states, protections for whistle-blowers or refusing to perform an illegal act. But the burden for the exceptions are mostly on the employee and are very hard to prove.

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20 Apr 2013, 6:31 pm

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I was close enough.
Sue me......
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20 Apr 2013, 6:32 pm

CSBurks wrote:

Anti-discrimination laws are a violation of property rights.

So?

You seem to think that this is important. I suggest that it is not.

There are no absolute rights other than the right of freedom of thought, belief and opinion. Every other right is subject to limitations. Your right to life ends where another person's right to self-defence overtakes it. Your right to free expression ends when your expression is the property of a copyright holder. Your right to religious freedom ends when your religious act involves an offense against another person.

Of course, anti-discrimination laws and the mechanisms for their eforcement are subject to judicial review to ensure that they are reasonable infringements. But provided that they pass judicial muster, I am content to see property rights infringed to that extent.

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21 Apr 2013, 1:03 am

Master_Pedant wrote:

Yeah, I think Catholic schools are almost completely government funded here. Anyway, as someone else said, private companies aren't allowed to violate the discrimination laws and can't just decide "we don't want to hire women" or "we don't want to hire X racial group so why should a private school be allowed to decide they don't want to hire gays?

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21 Apr 2013, 5:45 am

Outrageous. Senior management should be grovelling to keep their jobs.

CSBurks wrote:

Anti-discrimination laws are a violation of property rights.

In that case, property rights are a violation of common decency.

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