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24 Apr 2013, 6:25 pm

TBH I am finding this a bit annoying and I don't get it really. I get that major tragedies in the news tend to get people to question humanity but from a logistical standpoint it doesn't really make any sense. Why would you based your feelings about humanity on the actions that one (or in the recent case two) persons commit? Is it because people are seeing things too much from the severity of the disaster and not the actual person(s) involved?

To me humanity is not determined when one simpleton goes on a killing spree. Humanity is determined best by how society responds to the situation afterwards. And really when we have people going on anti-Muslim witchhunts after terrorist attacks or people using dead children for political and religious peddling, that's when I feel when humanity begins to sink at lower levels. I mean really, is it too much to ask for people to such scapegoating and agenda aside and just focus on helping the victims and survivors of such tragedies heal?



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24 Apr 2013, 6:28 pm

The feeble of mind turn to lowest common denominators and scapegoats because it is too hard or too much hard work for them to discuss, contemplate or understand more complicated semantics and the concept of power economies.

The rich and powerful who in turn exploit these people do so because they are sociopaths. Its a 3 way relationship between the rich and cynical, the ignorant and everyone else stuck in between.


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24 Apr 2013, 11:20 pm

The people who think the shooters/bombers are the problem, are the problem with humanity.
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25 Apr 2013, 5:55 am

The problem with humanity is that we are human. First cousins to the chimpanzees are are NOT cute. Actually they are a nasty lot.

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25 Apr 2013, 6:29 am

Some things are getting better, some things are getting worse.
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25 Apr 2013, 7:43 am

True: its a lot easier to burn down a house than to build one. But you get alot more attention for burning down a house than for building one ( or for being the one person necessary to burn down a house instead of being one of the many putting in the man hours it takes to build a house). Because folks who do destructive things get more attention than the vaster number of people dong the equivalent opposite things it creates the illusion that destructive people are more common than they are.



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25 Apr 2013, 9:06 am

I question the supposed "humanity" of human kind all the time. And it isn't for the tragedies that are sometimes inflicted by our own; it is mostly the massive reaction to those tragedies that perturbs me. We people en masse declare in unison outright hateful vile, advocate sadistic actions, and/or twist the "moral" of the tragedy into some kind of justification for their own goals.

It is constantly happening, and it sickens me, and it saddens me. I don't much like the fact that I'm a human being, because the way I think... the things I feel... my instinctual reaction to these kinds of things... is just so very different.


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25 Apr 2013, 7:47 pm

raisedbyignorance wrote:
TBH I am finding this a bit annoying and I don't get it really. I get that major tragedies in the news tend to get people to question humanity but from a logistical standpoint it doesn't really make any sense. Why would you based your feelings about humanity on the actions that one (or in the recent case two) persons commit? Is it because people are seeing things too much from the severity of the disaster and not the actual person(s) involved?


I don't question humanity because of a couple of bombers who blew up a marathon. I question humanity because of the bigger examples of our cruelty - such as the Holocaust - and because humans tend to be incredibly ignorant, and a lot of evil comes from that ignorance. One-third of the people in the United States think that Christianity should be the state religion. There are people out there who are prejudiced against other genders, races, religions, and LGBT people without any real logical reason for it. One person - back in the 1500s or 1600s, I think - theorized that the sun and the stars were the same sort of celestial bodies, and the Church burned him for heresy. I could go on and on and on.

That's why I question humanity. And in my opinion, it makes perfect sense from a logistical standpoint.



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25 Apr 2013, 8:15 pm

Dragoness wrote:
raisedbyignorance wrote:
TBH I am finding this a bit annoying and I don't get it really. I get that major tragedies in the news tend to get people to question humanity but from a logistical standpoint it doesn't really make any sense. Why would you based your feelings about humanity on the actions that one (or in the recent case two) persons commit? Is it because people are seeing things too much from the severity of the disaster and not the actual person(s) involved?


I don't question humanity because of a couple of bombers who blew up a marathon. I question humanity because of the bigger examples of our cruelty - such as the Holocaust - and because humans tend to be incredibly ignorant, and a lot of evil comes from that ignorance. One-third of the people in the United States think that Christianity should be the state religion. There are people out there who are prejudiced against other genders, races, religions, and LGBT people without any real logical reason for it. One person - back in the 1500s or 1600s, I think - theorized that the sun and the stars were the same sort of celestial bodies, and the Church burned him for heresy. I could go on and on and on.

That's why I question humanity. And in my opinion, it makes perfect sense from a logistical standpoint.


Well that was the point I was trying to make. The Marathon Bombing felt really small in comparison to bigger events of evil that tend to happen on the other side of the globe, as well as in our history.



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26 Apr 2013, 8:44 am

Political and ethnic ideologies are more represented in genocides, as well as religious ideologies like the inquisition or crusades, but they are all sort of tied in together. Then it goes back to the chimpanzee's killing the outsider chimp thing.

Tribal society was and is far from humane, but I imagine in peaceful times that tribes and village life was pleasant if food was abundant.

As populations grow, more pressure is put on resources and more fighting will be likely.

Urban developments even architecture, play a large roll in defining a citys humanity, education and culture too.

Country's like USA China Indonesia Africa and India, have many inhamane things due to population pressure on resources and poverty



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27 Apr 2013, 7:25 pm

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29 Apr 2013, 5:28 pm

raisedbyignorance wrote:
Dragoness wrote:
raisedbyignorance wrote:
TBH I am finding this a bit annoying and I don't get it really. I get that major tragedies in the news tend to get people to question humanity but from a logistical standpoint it doesn't really make any sense. Why would you based your feelings about humanity on the actions that one (or in the recent case two) persons commit? Is it because people are seeing things too much from the severity of the disaster and not the actual person(s) involved?


I don't question humanity because of a couple of bombers who blew up a marathon. I question humanity because of the bigger examples of our cruelty - such as the Holocaust - and because humans tend to be incredibly ignorant, and a lot of evil comes from that ignorance. One-third of the people in the United States think that Christianity should be the state religion. There are people out there who are prejudiced against other genders, races, religions, and LGBT people without any real logical reason for it. One person - back in the 1500s or 1600s, I think - theorized that the sun and the stars were the same sort of celestial bodies, and the Church burned him for heresy. I could go on and on and on.

That's why I question humanity. And in my opinion, it makes perfect sense from a logistical standpoint.


Well that was the point I was trying to make. The Marathon Bombing felt really small in comparison to bigger events of evil that tend to happen on the other side of the globe, as well as in our history.


Oh. Sorry for misunderstanding you.