This is exactly why I support the death penalty

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22 Jun 2013, 6:48 pm

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I'm so sick of hearing that these lowlifes deserve a second chance. As a survivor of abuse myself please understand the topic of child abuse especially sexual abuse is a tough subject for me. This poor girl was kidnapped, terrorized and murdered in cold blood by a monster that should NEVER of been let out.



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22 Jun 2013, 6:59 pm

'Death penalty' vs. 'being let out' is a false dilemma. In between the two is life without the possiblity of parole.



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22 Jun 2013, 7:05 pm

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'Death penalty' vs. 'being let out' is a false dilemma. In between the two is life without the possiblity of parole.


I will be honest. Part of me is fully against the death penalty. I feel there are too many cases where innocents are executed because they were found guilty based faulty evidence, witnesses, etc.
I will say the death penalty should be at the very least be reserved for the ones who commit the most deplorable crimes especially against children and only and I mean only if there is very strong evidence.



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22 Jun 2013, 7:07 pm

It would make more sense to bring back the old road gangs and make the degenerate dig ditches for the rest of his life.


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22 Jun 2013, 7:18 pm

Blue_Jackets_fan wrote:
LKL wrote:
'Death penalty' vs. 'being let out' is a false dilemma. In between the two is life without the possiblity of parole.


I will be honest. Part of me is fully against the death penalty. I feel there are too many cases where innocents are executed because they were found guilty based faulty evidence, witnesses, etc.
I will say the death penalty should be at the very least be reserved for the ones who commit the most deplorable crimes especially against children and only and I mean only if there is very strong evidence.


Even if you believe they had no free will, you would want them to be executed, right?

Personally, I'd rather they just be locked up for life or until they are fully treated so that the odd of abusing/raping is nil. It's justice enough. Vengeance doesn't do anyone good.



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22 Jun 2013, 7:55 pm

Or we can give such people to neuroscientists for study. Understanding the biological reason as to why someone acts in such a way might help us prevent such things from happening. We won't know until we study them. Worst case scenario we learn something.



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23 Jun 2013, 7:42 am

Blue_Jackets_fan wrote:
http://www.cfnews13.com/content/news/cfnews13/news/article.html/content/news/articles/bn9/2013/6/22/amber_alert_issued_f.html

I'm so sick of hearing that these lowlifes deserve a second chance. As a survivor of abuse myself please understand the topic of child abuse especially sexual abuse is a tough subject for me. This poor girl was kidnapped, terrorized and murdered in cold blood by a monster that should NEVER of been let out.

Well firstly, innocent until proven guilty- she was kidnapped and murdered, but we can't say that this man did it unless he is convicted.

His past conviction was for kidnapping. Whilst that's a very serious crime, do we want to kill people for kidnapping?

(And that's before we get onto mistaken executions, the extra cost of the death penalty compared to life imprisonment, and whether it is ever right to take another person's life)



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23 Jun 2013, 9:49 am

In principle, I don't have much of an issue with the death penalty. There is real evil out there and extinguishing it when possible is a noble thing to do. Unfortunately, I don't believe the government or anyone else for that matter can carry that out impartially and without the possibility of error.



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23 Jun 2013, 6:23 pm

I agree that some crimes *deserve* the death penalty - that it would be better to remove the perpetrators from existence, in the same way that we put down a rabid dog - unfortunatley, our justice system is falliable. Currently the standard is that criminals be convicted of death-penalty crimes 'beyond a reasonable doubt,' and yet innocent people are still sent to death row. When an innocent person is executed by the state, that means that every person in that state has participated in murder.



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23 Jun 2013, 8:05 pm

IMHO, anybody who believes that one innocent convict executed out of a hundred guilty parties executed is an acceptable level of risk, is just espousing state-sanctioned murder. one innocent out of a million would still be too damned many.



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24 Jun 2013, 6:05 am

It’s a major contradiction, it’s wrong to kill so we are going to kill you.

Killing people doesn’t solve crime.



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24 Jun 2013, 6:17 am

Rudywalsh wrote:
It’s a major contradiction, it’s wrong to kill so we are going to kill you.

Killing people doesn’t solve crime.


I agree with the first part.

However, the killing takes place after someone is convicted of the crime.


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24 Jun 2013, 11:00 am

Rudywalsh wrote:
It’s a major contradiction, it’s wrong to kill so we are going to kill you.

To be fair, we also say it is wrong to hold someone against their will, so we're going to hold you against your will.



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24 Jun 2013, 11:10 am

Blue_Jackets_fan wrote:
http://www.cfnews13.com/content/news/cfnews13/news/article.html/content/news/articles/bn9/2013/6/22/amber_alert_issued_f.html

I'm so sick of hearing that these lowlifes deserve a second chance. As a survivor of abuse myself please understand the topic of child abuse especially sexual abuse is a tough subject for me. This poor girl was kidnapped, terrorized and murdered in cold blood by a monster that should NEVER of been let out.


You have provided the solution. Put the evil doer in a place from which he cannot escape. The problem with the death penalty is the erroneous execution of an innocent person. There is no undoing that. Where has confinement enables one to release the wrongly convicted person and compensate him (monetarily) for the time he/she was imprisoned.

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24 Jun 2013, 11:47 am

In Russia, there is a prison called 'Black Dolphin' where the prisoners are kept in conditions that would be considered reprehensible to the west. A lifetime sentence there would be worse than death.


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24 Jun 2013, 1:34 pm

auntblabby wrote:
IMHO, anybody who believes that one innocent convict executed out of a hundred guilty parties executed is an acceptable level of risk, is just espousing state-sanctioned murder. one innocent out of a million would still be too damned many.

Ditto... If only it were true...


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