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25 Jul 2013, 12:57 am

Not only did they and continue to break the oath of their profession, but their government stands responsible. What kind of doctors do these terrible things? What corruption of the medical profession has taken place? I frankly wish violent death on all of them and hope that anyone who kills any of them gets away with it.

Former Guantanano inmate describes the mutilation of the Hippocratic Oath...



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25 Jul 2013, 2:55 am

From my opinion, they should be thrown out of the officials doctors registry. There is an oath, you are doing when being graduated as a doctor, and there is a reason behind that, so if they are not interested in being doctors, by not accepting that oath, they shall not be ones.



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25 Jul 2013, 3:59 am

I don't think that they 'mutilate' anyone, but they're absolutely party to torture and should lose their licenses for it at the very least.



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25 Jul 2013, 4:08 am

Poster on WP mutilates the English language; again, still.

I'm even of the opinion that Gitmo is an abomination, I just happen to think that any point worth arguing is better served by not sensationalizing it.


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25 Jul 2013, 9:26 am

"Unnecessary amputations" sounds utterly sickening.

Wishing violent death on people who haven't violently killed seems a bit over the top, to say the least.



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25 Jul 2013, 9:54 am

LKL wrote:
I don't think that they 'mutilate' anyone, but they're absolutely party to torture and should lose their licenses for it at the very least.



Unnnecessary amputations are mutilations... it's done purely out of sadism and spite. People refuse to report illness and injury out of fear that they're going to lose all their fingers as a result.



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25 Jul 2013, 9:57 am

The_Walrus wrote:
"Unnecessary amputations" sounds utterly sickening.

Wishing violent death on people who haven't violently killed seems a bit over the top, to say the least.


Not really. I think that just because they were in the service of Uncle Sam it makes them, what's the word, sacred cows whose behaviour is not unlike that of Dr. Mengele...



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25 Jul 2013, 9:57 am

Yes, xeno, we all know how much you hate America... :roll:



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25 Jul 2013, 10:02 am

Dox47 wrote:
Poster on WP mutilates the English language; again, still.

I'm even of the opinion that Gitmo is an abomination, I just happen to think that any point worth arguing is better served by not sensationalizing it.


Murat Kurnaz wrote a book about it, and there's no sensationalism whatsoever, it's the unvarnished truth.

Murat Kurnaz describes the endless regime of torture at Guantanamo, first excerpt published in The Guardian

I think it's part 2 where he describes a camp commander type laughing at the fake newspaper article they successfully planted and how "the outside world believes it's that"... what a bunch of arrogant jerks...



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25 Jul 2013, 10:05 am

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Yes, xeno, we all know how much you hate America... :roll:


Trying to replicate a Hell like this is over the top even for a country founded by Puritans... and their self-righteousness justifies every evil they do, every corruption in which they are engaged, including that of the medical profession.



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25 Jul 2013, 10:35 am

The Hippocratic Oath is not legally binding.

The laws and terms of licensing medical doctors are legally binding.



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25 Jul 2013, 10:43 am

xenon13 wrote:
Murat Kurnaz wrote a book about it, and there's no sensationalism whatsoever, it's the unvarnished truth.


Yeah, like writing a book about something automatically makes the subject the truth.
Kurnaz got caught in the wrong place at the wrong time with the wrong people and as a result may have been held longer than what would be considered justifiable.
Simply writing a book about his experiences in captivity at Kandahar and Gitmo does not make them fact.


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25 Jul 2013, 10:56 am

xenon13 wrote:
Fnord wrote:
Yes, xeno, we all know how much you hate America... :roll:


Trying to replicate a Hell like this is over the top even for a country founded by Puritans... and their self-righteousness justifies every evil they do, every corruption in which they are engaged, including that of the medical profession.


Then do not do any of your business with these scoundrels.

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25 Jul 2013, 11:16 am

xenon13 wrote:
The_Walrus wrote:
"Unnecessary amputations" sounds utterly sickening.

Wishing violent death on people who haven't violently killed seems a bit over the top, to say the least.


Not really. I think that just because they were in the service of Uncle Sam it makes them, what's the word, sacred cows whose behaviour is not unlike that of Dr. Mengele...

Have you ever heard of temperance?



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25 Jul 2013, 12:53 pm

Raptor wrote:
xenon13 wrote:
Murat Kurnaz wrote a book about it, and there's no sensationalism whatsoever, it's the unvarnished truth.


Yeah, like writing a book about something automatically makes the subject the truth.
Kurnaz got caught in the wrong place at the wrong time with the wrong people and as a result may have been held longer than what would be considered justifiable.
Simply writing a book about his experiences in captivity at Kandahar and Gitmo does not make them fact.


If he experienced these things then these are fact!



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25 Jul 2013, 12:55 pm

The_Walrus wrote:
xenon13 wrote:
The_Walrus wrote:
"Unnecessary amputations" sounds utterly sickening.

Wishing violent death on people who haven't violently killed seems a bit over the top, to say the least.


Not really. I think that just because they were in the service of Uncle Sam it makes them, what's the word, sacred cows whose behaviour is not unlike that of Dr. Mengele...

Have you ever heard of temperance?


A US senator agrees with my comparison, that is until he was pressured in the Land of the Free into taking back his remark. Free speech indeed!