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15 Dec 2013, 7:29 pm

According to Uncanny Valley, human being are very good at seeing minor differences between individuals and it give people discomfort in the first sight as a result. If this is the case, does it justify the fact that people are inherently intolerance and we "learn" to be "tolerance"? More importantly, does it imply discrimination is unavoidable ?



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15 Dec 2013, 8:22 pm

I think Humans are inherently Tribal. Intolerance might be one way that is expressed. Especially towards anything that contradicts a group's Tribal Identity.

I think understanding Tribalism might lead to finding ways to mitigate intolerance.



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15 Dec 2013, 11:35 pm

I think we naturally gravitate to our own groups for the sake of survival, and hence, we end up hostile toward outside groups. But we also have intellect enough to overcome this prejudice, and can become willing to live with others.


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15 Dec 2013, 11:41 pm

"Discrimination" is a word that's misunderstood and abused far too often nowadays, along with "tolerance" and "equality". At its core, discrimination is about noting differences; whether such descriptions are fair or true depends on the situation at hand. However, many in the world today want to equalize everything, to the point nothing's deemed more right or wrong than anything else...and that philosophy's very dangerous.

For example, most would agree that its better to feed the poor than let them starve; that's a form of discrimination. But the very practice of such things requires comparing every situation to an unchanging standard, which lies beyond the finite nature of either option. Its all sourced from basic logic; you can't have objective right and wrong at the same time, about the same thing.

This applies to religion in a way that makes many people angry, confused, and scared. If any supernatural belief system is objectively true, then by definition, all others opposed to it are objectively false. Attempts to reconcile polar opposites in this regard is called syncretism, but that also fails because denying objective truth necessitates its existence.


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16 Dec 2013, 12:35 am

JohnKK wrote:
According to Uncanny Valley, human being are very good at seeing minor differences between individuals and it give people discomfort in the first sight as a result. If this is the case, does it justify the fact that people are inherently intolerance and we "learn" to be "tolerance"? More importantly, does it imply discrimination is unavoidable ?

I don't know what the deal is. Everyone is different, number one. Everyone is an individual. No two people are alike, I don't care what color their skin is, eyes, hair, bodies. They are all different unless genetically identical twins even then you can see differences in them. They often rebel and strive to be individuals,, different from one another.
So this idea that people are the same is a myth.



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16 Dec 2013, 1:23 am

Kraichgauer wrote:
I think we naturally gravitate to our own groups for the sake of survival, and hence, we end up hostile toward outside groups. But we also have intellect enough to overcome this prejudice, and can become willing to live with others.


I think the printed word and literacy did contributed to making people more developed as individuals and less Tribal. I also think the modern electronic media have reversed this bringing us closer together in Marshal Mcluhan's "Global Village".



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16 Dec 2013, 4:52 am

Kraichgauer wrote:
I think we naturally gravitate to our own groups for the sake of survival, and hence, we end up hostile toward outside groups. But we also have intellect enough to overcome this prejudice, and can become willing to live with others.


^ This.

Seems like a natural evolutionary trait that would evolve to help protect those genetically most close to us i.e. our own tribe at the expense of those less genetically close. Animals exhibit the same territorial and protective behaviours too. Intellectually we can overcome some of this prejudice in the interests of a greater good; however tribalism often seems to lurk in the background and never completely goes away. It doesn't seem to take much to trigger violence between different tribes sharing the same space. The different tribes may be a different colour (e.g. race riots) or a different religion or even simply a different variety of the same religion e.g. Sunny vs Shia or Catholic vs Protestant.


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