Page 1 of 3 [ 43 posts ]  Go to page 1, 2, 3  Next

michaelhart22
Yellow-bellied Woodpecker
Yellow-bellied Woodpecker

User avatar

Joined: 9 Jan 2013
Age: 31
Gender: Male
Posts: 72

09 Nov 2013, 8:57 pm

Who actually belives that crap? really though. some magical being in the sky you pray to for good things to happen to other people. like a genie or some sh--. seriosuly if you beilive in god then you must beilive in santa to.



Fnord
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 6 May 2008
Age: 63
Gender: Male
Posts: 46,603
Location: Stendec

09 Nov 2013, 9:18 pm

michaelhart22 wrote:
Who actually belives that crap?

Lots of us do, even though faith proves nothing.

michaelhart22 wrote:
really though. some magical being in the sky you pray to for good things to happen to other people. like a genie or some sh--.

Prayer does nothing, and those who only pray for others are putting forth only the barest minimum (e.g., "Non-Zero") of effort to help those others.

michaelhart22 wrote:
seriosuly if you beilive in god then you must beilive in santa to.

Non-Sequitur. One belief does not necessarily follow from the other, although they do have some similarities.

But did you ever notice that you can re-arrange the letters of "Santa" to form the word "Satan"?

:wink:


_________________
*TRE45ON!!*
Lock Him Up!


91
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 30 Oct 2010
Age: 35
Gender: Male
Posts: 3,063
Location: Australia

09 Nov 2013, 9:30 pm

Well I do.


_________________
Life is real ! Life is earnest!
And the grave is not its goal ;
Dust thou art, to dust returnest,
Was not spoken of the soul.


michaelhart22
Yellow-bellied Woodpecker
Yellow-bellied Woodpecker

User avatar

Joined: 9 Jan 2013
Age: 31
Gender: Male
Posts: 72

09 Nov 2013, 9:55 pm

anceint aliens on space explains that the aliens were thought to be gods from the heavens, dont know where that came from so it could be partially true ...



Fnord
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 6 May 2008
Age: 63
Gender: Male
Posts: 46,603
Location: Stendec

09 Nov 2013, 10:03 pm

michaelhart22 wrote:
anceint aliens on space explains that the aliens were thought to be gods from the heavens, dont know where that came from so it could be partially true ...

Thoroughly debunked here: http://www.wrongplanet.net/postp5179016.html#5179016


_________________
*TRE45ON!!*
Lock Him Up!


staremaster
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 2 Dec 2010
Gender: Male
Posts: 1,628
Location: New York

09 Nov 2013, 10:07 pm

The essence of the concept of god is that it is unknowable to the human mind. That's why I call myself an agnostic and leave it at that...



Fnord
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 6 May 2008
Age: 63
Gender: Male
Posts: 46,603
Location: Stendec

09 Nov 2013, 10:08 pm

staremaster wrote:
The essence of the concept of god is that it is unknowable to the human mind. That's why I call myself an agnostic and leave it at that...

I'm more of a theist, but I hate religion.

Religion is more at fault for the spread of atheism than all of the sciences put together.


_________________
*TRE45ON!!*
Lock Him Up!


AspieOtaku
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 17 Feb 2012
Age: 38
Gender: Male
Posts: 13,051
Location: San Jose

09 Nov 2013, 10:31 pm

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1zblTCsThDE[/youtube][youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CVFh0hmuFQg[/youtube]


_________________
Your Aspie score is 193 of 200
Your neurotypical score is 40 of 200
You are very likely an aspie
No matter where I go I will always be a Gaijin even at home. Like Anime? https://kissanime.to/AnimeList


Fnord
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 6 May 2008
Age: 63
Gender: Male
Posts: 46,603
Location: Stendec

09 Nov 2013, 10:48 pm

Those are some good arguments, and if I'd seen and understood them before being indoctrinated, I might be an atheist too.


_________________
*TRE45ON!!*
Lock Him Up!


AspieOtaku
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 17 Feb 2012
Age: 38
Gender: Male
Posts: 13,051
Location: San Jose

09 Nov 2013, 11:29 pm

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xsj1UWol7l8[/youtube][youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C0klSfx--n8[/youtube]


_________________
Your Aspie score is 193 of 200
Your neurotypical score is 40 of 200
You are very likely an aspie
No matter where I go I will always be a Gaijin even at home. Like Anime? https://kissanime.to/AnimeList


Fnord
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 6 May 2008
Age: 63
Gender: Male
Posts: 46,603
Location: Stendec

10 Nov 2013, 10:28 am

Here's the thing; It's easier to impress a 3-year old with images of a great sky-daddy ("See the lightning? God did it!") than to educate him on maths and sciences. By the time a child is old enough to understand his times-tables, he has already heard all about the Creation, the Fall, the Great Flood, the Exodus, and the Jesus Story. By the time he's ready for algebra, he's likely been an altar boy, acolyte, or bar-mitzvahed.

It's a matter of what the 3-year old mind can accept - an invisible being who will reward them for being good and punish them for being bad, or Maxwell's equations:

Image


_________________
*TRE45ON!!*
Lock Him Up!


trollcatman
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 21 Dec 2012
Age: 39
Gender: Male
Posts: 2,919

10 Nov 2013, 12:33 pm

Fnord wrote:
Here's the thing; It's easier to impress a 3-year old with images of a great sky-daddy ("See the lightning? God did it!") than to educate him on maths and sciences. By the time a child is old enough to understand his times-tables, he has already heard all about the Creation, the Fall, the Great Flood, the Exodus, and the Jesus Story. By the time he's ready for algebra, he's likely been an altar boy, acolyte, or bar-mitzvahed.

It's a matter of what the 3-year old mind can accept - an invisible being who will reward them for being good and punish them for being bad, or Maxwell's equations:

Image


On the other hand, evolution is fairly simple to teach to children and doesn't require math. Unlike many physics topics, it is easy to understand for the average person.
I actually read about evolution before I heard the bible stories. My parents were not religious and my special interests were dinosaurs, early humans and other prehistoric life such as ammonites.
Maxwell's equations are not interesting to most children, and I would guess 90% of adults have no idea what they are either (I had to look it up myself on wikipedia).



VIDEODROME
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 20 Nov 2008
Age: 44
Gender: Male
Posts: 2,691

10 Nov 2013, 12:58 pm

Even if there is a God, this being seems like something so far out of human experience and understanding that I don't see how His supposed existence concerns me.



GGPViper
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 23 Sep 2009
Gender: Male
Posts: 5,642

10 Nov 2013, 1:23 pm

The existence of an omnipotent deity is epistemologically irrelevant. An omnipotent deity would - by definition - be capable of defying any and all attempts of detection. As such, it is logically impossible to envision *any* disproof of an omnipotent deity. No - and I mean *absolutely no* - empirical observation could serve as a disproof of the existence of a god.

In other words, the question: "Does God Exist?" is scientifically meaningless. Reality *itself* is incapable of answering that question.

Thus spoke the Great Infidel.


_________________
Omit needless words.


michaelhart22
Yellow-bellied Woodpecker
Yellow-bellied Woodpecker

User avatar

Joined: 9 Jan 2013
Age: 31
Gender: Male
Posts: 72

10 Nov 2013, 2:50 pm

there has to be some reason we are here for some purpose other then a magical diety that lives in the sky.religion is what held back society as a whole and prevented us from advanceing greatr minds were silinced int he "name of god" for there beilifs but they were right all along...



AspieOtaku
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 17 Feb 2012
Age: 38
Gender: Male
Posts: 13,051
Location: San Jose

10 Nov 2013, 2:59 pm

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eTX5dTCCOj4[/youtube][youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JjwQ7JKkU9M[/youtube]


_________________
Your Aspie score is 193 of 200
Your neurotypical score is 40 of 200
You are very likely an aspie
No matter where I go I will always be a Gaijin even at home. Like Anime? https://kissanime.to/AnimeList