The BNP's Christmas card

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I laughed at this, for so many reasons.

http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2013/12 ... 92661.html

I can't believe the BNP think that this was a good idea. Even from their own perspective, I can't. It's not inventive or original, it's just ridiculously blatant and pathetic.

The inside of the card is even worse, what with the "Operation White Vote" (really!) stuff.

As if there were ever any doubt, here's one of the BNP's founders in his Sunday finest.

I'm, why do we pay attention to them again? I thought they are pretty small and kind of nutty. Or are my UK friends afraid of some of the unfortunate views our friends on the Continent are embracing?

the BNP are a spent force, they have enjoyed their peak already. They are the joke of british politics.

They have lost all but a couple of their council seats, are heavilly in debt and rarely retain any of their election deposits.

There is no way Griffin will retain his BNP seat in the European elections. UKIP will take it - in fact the BNP just managed to sneak it in 2009. I expect UKIP's Pakistan-born Amjad Bashir will take the seat that Andrew Brons now occupies. (Brons, an ex-NF man, himself left the BNP in the Europarl over Griffin's leadership.)

Hope Griffin is enjoying his last few months with the racist arsecandles of Jobbik.

It's clearly evident that Gri££in is wrecking the BNP and the naff Christmas card is just the latest weapon in his amoury. He's in the game for the money plus the money from the Trafalgar club. Just ask Mike Newland about financial matters and he will tell you everything.

Nationalism has changed beyond recognition in the past 5 years - and actually for the better than the worse. Once Gri££in's retired to a life of luxury stuffing his face with stilton and truffles whilst rubbing shoulders with other filthy rich Tory has beens then it's clear road ahead for the real Nationalists.

UKIP is flavor of the month and has a long way to go before it's got a genuine long term support base. Remember the Greens in 1989. History is repeating itself.

Fixed that for you.

Nationalism is the measles of mankind.

Nationalism is the natural order as it is based on intuition and common sense rather than ideology or so-called scientific principles. In Europe Nationalism is considered to be controversial and anti-establishment whereas in several countries outside of Europe, most notably in Asia, it is mainstream political thinking. I have seen it myself. The BNP are not Nationalist. They are populist.

Liberalism is derived from the whims of the chattering classes of 18th and 19th century Europe. Socialism is a reactionary force, and effectively the child of capitalism, that could only have been created in the conditions of an industrial nation in the 19th century.

Eh, to me those are counter-intuitive to each other.


The problem is there is different forms of nationalism. It could be argued that nationalism is something of a weasel word, and one that self labelled fascists use to hide behind because of fear of using the 'f' word because of its pegoritive connotations.

There is both progressive and reactionary nationalism, up to a point.

The nationalism of Sinn Fein or The Popular Front for the liberation of Palestine does not equal the nationalism of the BNP or the Front Nationale because the latter are for the protection of power hegemonies of established privilege.

Do you think that these excrement-brain people would understand something less obvious? I don't even know if they understand this card.

I think its a mistake to assume that all of them are knuckle dragging ape like sub humans.

Griffin is Cambridge educated so surely somewhere in their rabble they have the cognition to muster what it means.

Nationalism - in its purest form - is a very lightweight formula. It's when extra policies and strategies required to creating a fully featured system are added it diverges into different varients. This also explains why so many Nationalists can't get on well with other Nationalists.

To an extent Hugo Chavez was a Nationalist, albeit a left leaning one.



It could also be argued that there are many varients of fascism. Not all Nationalist movements are fascist and not all fascist movement are Nationalist.



It's not quite as clearly cut as this. I think your problem is that you live in a peculiar country with a peculiar history and peculiar politics. Nationalism has a different meaning in Northern Ireland to Nationalism in most other countries. If you were to spend time living in certain other countries including but not restricted to Japan, Kuwait, Pakistan, Iran, and Taiwan then you would probably achieve a better understanding of the Nationalism that I write about. These countries are all very different from each other but a common thread runs through them that is largely absent in western Europe outside of Nationalist communities.