UK: WARNING! We have an American Style Conservative Leader

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Robdemanc
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24 Dec 2013, 1:18 pm

David Cameron praises Christianity and yet again tries to fool the electorate into thinking more jobs are being created.

Camerons Christmas Message

Reading this article made me wonder if I was suddenly living in the US under George W Bush.



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24 Dec 2013, 1:31 pm

Delusion much?

He's making a very, very small and inoffensive nod to the fact that Britain is still a Christian country. I would expect him to say that. I'm completely not offended by it, and I'm an atheist and secularist.

Be helpful if he actually made a nod to actual Christians actually being massacred throughout the world for their faith but...

...nah, can't see that happening.



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24 Dec 2013, 2:07 pm

David Cameron wrote:
...Many of these people are Christians who live out to the letter that verse in Acts, that `it is more blessed to give than to receive'. These people put their faith into action and we can all be grateful for what they do."...


Nope. No American Conservative would ever suggest such a thing.

Acts 20:35 wrote:
I have shewed you all things, how that so labouring ye ought to support the weak, and to remember the words of the Lord Jesus, how he said, "It is more blessed to give than to receive.’”


I don't think that the Lord Jesus ever said those words. Which means that it doesn't count.



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24 Dec 2013, 3:35 pm

Tequila wrote:
Christians actually being massacred throughout the world for their faith but....


Where did that happen?


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24 Dec 2013, 3:48 pm

Christians and muslims are killing each other on the basis of their religious affiliation in the Central African Republic. I don't know if massacre is exactly the right word, but it could certainly get to that point if the world doesn't do more to intervene.


Cameron's economic program is certainly founded on lies and mischaracterizations, just like the US conservatives. I haven't kept up with much of the rest.



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24 Dec 2013, 3:51 pm

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Christians and muslims are killing each other on the basis of their religious affiliation in the Central African Republic. I don't know if massacre is exactly the right word, but it could certainly get to that point if the world doesn't do more to intervene.


Cameron's economic program is certainly founded on lies and mischaracterizations, just like the US conservatives. I haven't kept up with much of the rest.


that is a religious war then, not a massacre.

I wouldn't like to see western forces on the ground, any step short of that should be taken. Though its unlikely that there would be boots on the ground since the CAR isn't known for its oil reserves.

Camerons economic pogrom is based on ideology and manipulative spin doctoring. Its nauseating how many working class voters give Cameron the benefit of their ignorance and still believe that austerity is an necessary measure. Not that Lord Toad or Ed Milliband would do a lot differently mind you.


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24 Dec 2013, 3:57 pm

"Toute nation a le gouvernement qu'elle mérite."* -- Joseph-Marie, comte de Maistre (b.1753 - d.1821)

*"Every nation gets the government it deserves." Since it was a European philosopher who said this, it must be applicable to European countries, as well.

So, what did the U.K. do to deserve such a heinous fate?



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24 Dec 2013, 3:59 pm

Fnord wrote:
"Toute nation a le gouvernement qu'elle mérite."* -- Joseph-Marie, comte de Maistre (b.1753 - d.1821)

*"Every nation gets the government it deserves." Since it was a European philosopher who said this, it must be applicable to European countries, as well.

So, what did the U.K. do to deserve such a heinous fate?


According to Max Keiser, the UK under the Brown administration made the mistake of selling most of its gold reserves to the chinese. The UK used to own 1000 tonnes of gold bullion, and it sold 700 of that to Beijing. Since the recession the value of gold appreciated now China sits on top of nearly 4000 tonnes of gold.

Keiser explains the cause of the UK's economic woes.
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wn_x_SNH5UE[/youtube]


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24 Dec 2013, 4:17 pm

thomas81 wrote:
jrjones9933 wrote:
Christians and muslims are killing each other on the basis of their religious affiliation in the Central African Republic. I don't know if massacre is exactly the right word, but it could certainly get to that point if the world doesn't do more to intervene.


that is a religious war then, not a massacre.

I wouldn't like to see western forces on the ground, any step short of that should be taken. Though its unlikely that there would be boots on the ground since the CAR isn't known for its oil reserves.


Actually, the French already have a small force on the ground, working to disarm the various paramilitary groups.

Also, both sides have targeted noncombatants. That makes it closer to a massacre than a war, but it's a damn mess no matter how you look at it.



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24 Dec 2013, 4:26 pm

thomas81 wrote:
Where did that happen?


Oh... Nigeria, Pakistan, Egypt, Iraq, CAR.

The story of the Pakistani Christians is well-documented.

Do a little bit of research.

Almost all of these from the last month:

In the Central African Republic last week, 1,000 Christians were summarily massacred by Islamic jihadists.

http://www.jihadwatch.org/2013/12/centr ... eriod.html

Also last week, Nigerian jihadists slaughtered over 200 Christians for their faith:

http://www.jihadwatch.org/2013/12/inter ... tians.html

In Indonesia, there has been a new spate of churches closing. On the closed churches the signs read: "Kill the Christians"

http://www.jihadwatch.org/2013/12/inter ... s-is-.html

In Muslim-majority Turkmenistan, there is religious persecution of Protestants, Catholics and people of other religions:

http://www.jihadwatch.org/2013/12/inter ... tian-.html

Essentially, only two religions in Turkmenistan are de facto allowed (because they're officially registered) - Sunni Islam and Russian Orthodox Christianity. If you're of any other faith, you will be persecuted. Other religions keep a low profile because they fear state intimidation and persecution.

(Here's some more information about the lack of religious freedom and forced conversion in Turkmenistan: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freedom_of ... us_freedom)

A Nigerian Boko Haram jihadi was sentenced this week for a 2011 Christmas Day terrorist attack on a Catholic Church which killed 37 people:

http://www.jihadwatch.org/2013/12/niger ... eople.html

Earlier this month, a Cameroonian missionary was murdered and his church set ablaze. Boko Haram were responsible:

http://www.jihadwatch.org/2013/12/inter ... blaze.html

Islamic jihadists murdered four people and burnt down 100 houses in a Christian village:

http://www.jihadwatch.org/2013/12/niger ... llage.html

An Egyptian ex-Muslim Christian, a man that protested against violence against Christians was arrested (and most likely tortured) for "inciting sectarian strife":

http://morningstarnews.org/2013/12/note ... -tortured/

Loads and loads of atrocities against Christians in Syria too.

In the Islamist worldview, there is no God but Allah. The kuffar are to be subjugated and slaughtered.



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24 Dec 2013, 6:13 pm

Cameron's over the top villainy just never ends. Preaching poverty for the masses whilst surrounded with gold... boasting about the greatness of food bank dependency and heading a government that boasts of the advantages of prison labour. This is pure unadulterated evil and it's a shame he didn't get a Brighton 1984 by now.