Can Asperger's Syndrome to join the Military ?

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08 Feb 2014, 7:13 am

Hello my question is it possible for a Person with Asperger's Syndrome to join the Military for Enlistment or to be Drafted by the Military if there was a Military Draft or if it was ever Reinstated ? I ask because I have met People with Asperger's Syndrome who have joined the Military and I have heard stories of People with Asperger's Syndrome who have been Drafted into the Military. Is this true about the UK Army below ?


In America I heard its on a case by case basis, in the UK their is a blanket ban on recruiting people with aspergers.

http://uk.answers.yahoo.com/question/in ... 025AAkHsRu



The only process now in effect is that men between the ages of 18 and 26 register with Selective Service and keep their registration record current during that period.

http://autism.about.com/od/transitionco ... servic.htm


Hello, it's been a while since I've been on here. Anyway, I have a few questions about joining the military with Asperger's syndrome. I contacted an Air Force recruiter and he says I can join if I present a paper by my doctor saying that I have Asperger's and I haven't attended therapy or treatment sessions for over a year, and I'm looking into the Air Force, but would any of you Aspies know about the other policies of the other branches of the military? Are there any people with Asperger's on this forum who are in the military?

http://www.wrongplanet.net/postt89997.html



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08 Feb 2014, 8:41 am

mikecartwright wrote:
Hello my question is it possible for a Person with Asperger's Syndrome to join the Military for Enlistment or to be Drafted by the Military if there was a Military Draft or if it was ever Reinstated?

Yes.

I served six years in the Navy. Of course, I never even suspected that I might have something like Asperger's Syndrome back then.

Aside from the yelling and stress, the structure and discipline of military service did me a lot of good. If you can survive military service, then you can survive almost anything.

If an Aspie never reveals his or her condition to the recruiters, to the drill instructors, or to anyone else who could "out" them, then they might have a chance of serving at least four years of honorable duty. But failure to admit such a condition is punishable under the UCMJ as "Enlistment Under False Pretenses", and might earn the Aspie a DIShonorable discharge.



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08 Feb 2014, 8:50 am

I was employed by the U.S. Army at age eighteen to age twenty-one. It was a fun time, except for being told over and over that I "lack common sense", and names that derided my intelligence. My mental age was probably that of a thirteen year old.

Asperger Syndrome is now "ASD" Autistic Spectrum Disorder in the U.S., so how will get a diagnosis ?



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08 Feb 2014, 9:11 am

I was drafted and served in the Danish Army for 8 months.

I learned to shoot stuff, drive stuff, clean stuff and wait for orders on what to do with stuff.

Had I been diagnosed at the time, I would have been ineligible to serve, though.



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08 Feb 2014, 9:50 am

I too served in the U. S. Navy, before AS, ASD etc. existed as diagnoses.

In certain enlisted fields – cryptology, intelligence, electronics – I would say that there were a fair number of people on the spectrum. We were expected to be weird.



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08 Feb 2014, 10:50 am

A clever Aspie (like me, for instance) can disguise some of the symptoms and pass for normal.

I am married to an NT (57 years) have four children only one of which exhibited OCD and Aspie-like tendencies. All the others and my grandchildren are "normal".

By using my intelligence I have learned to pass for human for over 35 years. I am now 78 so I have the act down pat.

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08 Feb 2014, 1:26 pm

If you are diagnosed you would be considered 4F otherwise it would depend entirely on you and how you manage your symptoms. You can't not tell them either or else you could be charged with fraudulent enlistment.



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08 Feb 2014, 1:41 pm

If you have been formally diagnosed then you are on record somewhere as having AS and at that point cannot deny it without without the risk of being found out. If you have not been formally diagnosed that's entirely different since you can deny knowledge of it. If you want to join up then I suggest giving careful thought to what branch, what you want to do, and why. It is a binding commitment and not something to be taken lightly.


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08 Feb 2014, 4:13 pm

mikecartwright wrote:
Hello my question is it possible for a Person with Asperger's Syndrome to join the Military for Enlistment or to be Drafted by the Military if there was a Military Draft or if it was ever Reinstated ? I ask because I have met People with Asperger's Syndrome who have joined the Military and I have heard stories of People with Asperger's Syndrome who have been Drafted into the Military. Is this true about the UK Army below ?

If the UK ever reinstated the draft, it would almost certainly be because of a WWII-scale war that threatened the country's sovereignty. In such a situation, I imagine the likes of myself would be drafted.

In such a scenario, I would take all steps necessary to ensure I didn't see battle.



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08 Feb 2014, 4:44 pm

You can't serve until World War 3 kicks off, at which stage they will be begging you to serve.

I tried to join the Royal Air Force pre-diagnosis but was refused on non-related medical grounds.

If any of the armed forces branches expect me to sign up in the event that Chinese paratroopers start dropping from the skies they can whistle; i answered the call.


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08 Feb 2014, 4:58 pm

One of the few occasions that having autism is handy.

At least i won't have to do a 'corporal clinger' just to get out.

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08 Feb 2014, 5:31 pm

It didn't get Klinger out, either.


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08 Feb 2014, 6:46 pm

For me, the idea of serving in the military is second only to being sent to prison as my worst nightmare. Trying to cope with all the conflicting social demands in such a situation brings me out in a cold sweat just thinking about it. Before I found out about my ASD, I served aboard a 30 crew civilian ship for a year as ships cook, and as much as I adore being at sea it was a nightmare.


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08 Feb 2014, 6:47 pm

another approach

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08 Feb 2014, 10:09 pm

Yes.. no issue here in Australia. Although competition for certain jobs is fierce and you might get passed over.


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08 Feb 2014, 11:00 pm

i wish :( ive heard that here in the us there is possible work around something bout seeing a military doctor and stuff to get an ok, but i'm not sure how to go about it since the recuiters will not give you time of day once they hear the word autistic or aspergers.

i don;t see ww3 happening in my life time hopefully, but i doubt they'd come for me even then, so i'd likely just join a resistance movement or militia