why are feminist obsessed with Nice guys(TM)

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Here is one

http://skepchick.org/2013/06/niceguys/

who credits the "nice guys" with turning her into a Feminist.

I am not sure of what was said in the subject, only caught some floating thoughts as I scanned the issues. so the argument you have with the poster is your own.

But I will say this, men and women are not built the same, we have different needs, nor only for our selves, but from each other. if this wasn't so then there would be no gender in our self identity. there is no such thing as equality between the sex's, we have different needs which helps define us and our relationships. this does not mean one sex is better or more then the other. if anything we need each other in order to grow. like two pieces of a puzzle we complement each other and the bigger picture, even though were not built the same.

Last edited by AspergianMutantt on 11 Mar 2014, 11:02 am, edited 1 time in total.

I have the needs for sleeping, eating, keeping my body at an healthy temperature and playing a bit Civ5 tonight = engaging in an hobby. So exactly what about my emotional/psychical needs is so different to your needs? ^^ (That I have the physical need for tampons once a month, I know myself.)

i am "built" just as differently from other women as i am from men (obviously i am not speaking physiologically here because i am physiologically female). i have always FELT just as different from other women as i do from men. i don't feel i have much in common when it comes to how my mind works with what is generally regarded as "feminine", or with people who would describe themselves with that word. my needs in life never seemed to match those of my female friends growing up--nor would they now likely if i still had any female friends, which i don't. my best friend is male.

so how does your binary idea of gender deal with people like me? i guess we don't exist.

Still you not a male, so you do not truly know, your just assuming.
Without knowing what really goes on in a males mind you have nothing really to compare too.
And as such, even though you do not recognize it, you may still have a vary feminin personality, and if not that at least more of that of females needs.
The funny thing about humans, is that as everyone has slightly different genetics, so shall the variations of us. so there are some exceptions.

Last edited by AspergianMutantt on 11 Mar 2014, 11:51 am, edited 1 time in total.

So the differences are only about "whats going on inside", but are not that much, that whats going on inside would effect our external behavior or needs. Must be really great differences we have, if they dont even affect our external behavior. ^^

Tell me then, do you wait for the man to approach you? or are you the aggressor?
and if your more interested in the same sex, the question remains the same.

And in the bedroom, do you take charge? or do you prefer to be passive or dominated?

Are you attracted to the same sex? equal or more so then the other?

Males absorber the pheromones women puts off during sex, it creates a satisfaction that masturbation by its self could never achieve. and you?

As you grew up, did you think more in terms of you will have a child someday? or just hope that a woman someday will accept you and bear you that gift?

Women tend to prefer that smart male with lots of confidence, while most males tend to prefer that gentle and nurturing female.

When you where young, did you prefer playing more with dolls then guns or soldiers?

and yet my male best friend knows me better than most people ever have in my life (with the possible exception of my mother) and i know him the same. he gets how my mind works, and i understand his. how do you explain that?

I already did.
I leave it to you to puzzle that out.

if i don't know what goes on in a male's mind then why do i understand how my friend thinks, and he understands how i think, and yet he is male and i am female?

also, i assure you, i do not have a feminine personality. i have been told all of my life, by pretty much everyone i have known, how NOT feminine i am. i am cool with that. why aren't you?

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Neither. I thought about having a career.



I played with action figures, mud, rocks, and sticks.

According to your definition, I must not exist.

As mentioned several times, I started approaching, not because I am male or female, but simply because of me being sh***y at nonverbal clues and hints, which normally starts flirting between NTs, before any of both approach. And ARE YOU the aggressor cant be answered objective, simply because it depends on the opinion of the opposite. For some people that behavior seemed to be aggressive, for others not. So there is not an objective answer to that, and you can as well only decide for yourself, if you think of this as aggressive or not. I personally dont see anything aggressive in mentioning it verbally, if I feel sympathy for someone.

Yes, thats obviously, that if your asking about the same stuff "How do you approach someone, you feel sympathy for." that there wont be much different answers for the same question.

Goddamn, watch less porn and start living in reality. If you want to have an healthy relationship, you should care for both persons simply mentioning their personal likings on equal terms, so that the opposite know about it. I mention what pleases me, as does my partner, not to be passive or dominate, but to simply have fun with sex. Thats normally the reason why you do sex. ^^

I think both are ok, but have more experiences with male partners, simply out of statistical reasons, that there are far more heterosexual men available then homosexual women. ^^

As as well already mentioned in further threads, I like the smell of my partner. Do you think, having a nose and primal brain stem depends on having Y-chromosomes? O_o

None of both. As already explained for you, for me having a child is linked two persons getting a child. I do not GIFT my partner with an child, I created it together with him. I cant pull that out of nothing, but need his agreement and as well physical context for it, just as he needs both of me. I dont HAVE a child: Me and my partner are receiving one.

Most women and men I learned to know, preferred to be treated as individuals and to be asked what THEY like, and not what your gender likes. It´s ok that many males like football. But simply assuming, that because of you being male, you HAVE TO like football and forcing you to spend your sundays free time with watching footballs, is simply stupid. If you do like football, there is nothing wrong with it or you. But if you dont, there is as well nothing wrong with it or you.

I played with my neighbors dolls, but because of some weirdos, trying to create differences in people by all means, they were not refered to as dolls, but are actually called "action-figures" ("Masters of the Universe" and "WWF" to be detailed.)

I wont discuss with you, that there are statistical preferences when it comes to gender. But that include as well a broad spectrum, which is overlapping each other, and there is nothing wrong about it. Or as already explained in another thread, I see nothing wrong about, that most women have european shoe sizes of average 39 and most male of 42. There is nothing bad about accepting that, as long as you dont try to make an ultimate truth out of it, ignoring the people for whom that statistical preference does not fit.

As you did with: "we have different needs, nor only for our selves, but from each other."

The difference between an prejudice and an fact is simply the usage of certain words as "many", "some", "few", ... Because the moment you do so, you will start not to piss off everyone that does not fit in your description. The existing men with shoe size 39 or female with shoe size 42, will thank you for that.

Last edited by Schneekugel on 11 Mar 2014, 12:40 pm, edited 1 time in total.

Lol, no, there are always exceptions.

I like you, you made me smile. I am most attracted to tomboy girls. which has its draw backs, more competition if the woman is bisexual.

do you understand that what you're saying is patronising and dismissive of those "exceptions" you keep mentioning?

Without realizing it, in many ways you just made many of my points, thank you.

BTW, I don't like most sports, not unless their intellectual, Olympic types for personal achievement, or games where I can see titties bounce. love womens mud wrestling.