American do you like your president (Obama)

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28 Mar 2014, 9:19 am

As you probably well know, I am a Pole.

Recently with my mom watched the live television Obama's speech in Brussels , my mom said that talks stupidity worse than Walesa, because you have to know that Lech Walesa is true overthrew communism, but he could not speak in public, he had the gift of rally the people , but usually speak without sense at all. But it was to be about Obama, so what do you think of him?



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28 Mar 2014, 9:45 am

Well, he did rally us to defeat the Repugnicans in 2008. I think that he is basically okay. Especially in light of the likely alternatives. President Romney? :eew:



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28 Mar 2014, 9:50 am

He has done some good, but also done some things that have set us back quite a bit.

I am not a huge fan, and never really have been.

To be honest, he's not much different than Romney was as governor.

I was a Gary Johnson supporter in 2012. Nader in 2008.


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28 Mar 2014, 10:12 am

And I wonder why politicians no matter for what country they come from always talking with no sense :D



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28 Mar 2014, 10:14 am

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American do you like your president (Obama)

No, not particularly.
I've never whined about Obama nearly as much as some of his supporters whined about Bush, though.


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28 Mar 2014, 10:16 am

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No, not particularly.
I've never whined about Obama nearly as much as some of his supporters whined about Bush, though.


Well, Bush was the worst president ever.



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28 Mar 2014, 10:21 am

A reminder of the Bush presidency, for those who forgot

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=74jDBckSCBw[/youtube]



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28 Mar 2014, 10:24 am

I'd like him better if he would conduct international relations differently than his predecessor, rather than simply characterizing his actions differently.



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28 Mar 2014, 10:33 am

ArrantPariah wrote:
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American do you like your president (Obama)

No, not particularly.
I've never whined about Obama nearly as much as some of his supporters whined about Bush, though.


Well, Bush was the worst president ever.


Just for the record; you're telling us that out of 44 presidents G.W. Bush was the worse of all 44?


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28 Mar 2014, 10:48 am

President Obama does not like America. He is a latter day apostle of the trouble make Saul Alinsky.

Prior to his election to the senate Obama used to be a "community activist" using Alinsky's play book.

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28 Mar 2014, 11:03 am

I with "Minority Report" was real so that he could be prevented from ever running for office in the first place.

I'd feel the same about G.W. Bush and a few others, but Obama's been a nightmare.

I'm sure if he had to go back to 2008 and run on what he would do since being elected, he wouldn't have even gotten the party nomination.



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28 Mar 2014, 11:40 am

The only positive about Obama being president is that John McCain isn't. We'd be knee deep in WWIII by now with McShame as president.

No, I do not like Obama. I feel he is a liar, he was suppose to be a repudiation of Bush but he doubled down on almost every Bush era policy with a decidedly authoritarian streak. There really isn't much difference between the two parties in America, our past election was decided almost entirely on identity politics. The Republican establishment only opposes Obama because he is a Democrat, there is no real difference. That's why their candidate in 2012 was Mitt Romney, he did not reflect the views of your typical Republican. Romney was a liberal from Massachusetts pretending to be a conservative, nominating Romney killed the GOP's strongest attack on Obama since Romneycare was the actual basis of Obamacare.

Obama has always been praised as a speaker but I think that's always been a lot of hype, he adopted the cadence of great speakers that are very familiar to most Americans but when you really listen to his speeches they are almost completely devoid of any real substance. Off the cuff(or more appropriately off the teleprompter) Obama is all ums and ahs, he's gaffe prone but the media doesn't go after him even a fraction that Bush or any other Republican was or would.

Hilary will be even worse, pray she does not become president in 2016.



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28 Mar 2014, 12:44 pm

ruveyn wrote:
President Obama does not like America. He is a latter day apostle of the trouble make Saul Alinsky.

Prior to his election to the senate Obama used to be a "community activist" using Alinsky's play book.

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Oh, President Obama likes America all right. Being a trouble-making community activist doesn't make him bad.

Saul Alinsky did quite a lot of good work during his life.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saul_Alinsky

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Alinsky's tactics were often unorthodox. In Rules for Radicals he wrote, 'the job of the organizer is to maneuver and bait the establishment so that it will publicly attack him as a 'dangerous enemy.'" According to Alinsky, "the hysterical instant reaction of the establishment [will] not only validate [the organizer's] credentials of competency but also ensure automatic popular invitation."

As an example, after organizing FIGHT (an acronym for Freedom, Independence [subsequently Integration], God, Honor, Today) in Rochester, New York, Alinsky once threatened to stage a "fart in" to disrupt the sensibilities of the city's establishment at a Rochester Philharmonic concert. FIGHT members were to consume large quantities of baked beans after which, according to author Nicholas von Hoffman, "FIGHT's increasingly gaseous music-loving members would hide themselves to the concert hall where they would sit expelling gaseous vapors with such noisy velocity as to compete with the woodwinds." Satisfied with his threat yielding action, Alinsky later threatened a "piss in" at Chicago O'Hare Airport. Alinsky planned to arrange for large numbers of well-dressed African Americans to occupy the urinals and toilets at O'Hare for as long as it took to bring the city to the bargaining table. According to Alinsky, once again the threat alone was sufficient to produce results. In Rules for Radicals, he notes that this tactic fell under two of his rules: Rule #3: Wherever possible, go outside the experience of the enemy; and Rule #4: Ridicule is man's most potent weapon.


I don't think that President Obama ever organized anything really fun like that.



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28 Mar 2014, 1:17 pm

Personally, he seems like a cool guy, so it's hard to square that with all the horrible things he does. Gives me a bit of Clinton deja vu, but without the political competence.


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28 Mar 2014, 1:24 pm

Obama's a liar and deceiver, and the only reason the mass media adores him is because he's a leftist. They preach about "tolerance" and being "inclusive", but are fiercely intolerant and exclusive with regard to anyone who doesn't share their "subjective morality" worldview. I actually considered voting for Obama, until I saw a report on CNN in 2008, where he promised a group of abortion advocates "I will not stand in your way if you support my campaign". In my eyes, that automatically made him a murderer, just as guilty as the selfish mothers and cruel doctors involved in this despicable practice. I wasn't a huge fan of Romney at all, but the last thing I wanted was another four years with a man in charge who got his ideals from Marxism, Communism, and a complete lack of faith in the true foundation of this country. To date, the only promise he's kept from his opening strategy is, "I'm going to fundamentally transform the United States of America". What he really meant was radically transforming the fundamentals of the U.S., taking away our national independence in favor of a "one world order".


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28 Mar 2014, 1:38 pm

zer0netgain wrote:
I with "Minority Report" was real so that he could be prevented from ever running for office in the first place.

The precogs could only predict events a few days in advance. Obama's extra-judicial assassinations would only get him arrested well after he had been elected.

Moviefan2k4 wrote:
Obama's a liar and deceiver, and the only reason the mass media adores him is because he's a leftist. They preach about "tolerance" and being "inclusive", but are fiercely intolerant and exclusive with regard to anyone who doesn't share their "subjective morality" worldview. <snip> I wasn't a huge fan of Romney at all, but the last thing I wanted was another four years with a man in charge who got his ideals from Marxism, Communism, and a complete lack of faith in the true foundation of this country. To date, the only promise he's kept from his opening strategy is, "I'm going to fundamentally transform the United States of America". What he really meant was radically transforming the fundamentals of the U.S., taking away our national independence in favor of a "one world order".

It is fine to be right wing, but everything that remains in this post, except the very first clause and the bits that are explicitly your opinion, is wrong. I removed your religious views, which you have a right to, even if they are rather questionable.