Obama gives Iraq war a more generous spin

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Obama softening his position on Iraq?
Other news sources were much more pointed in their view of this small but significant shift.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post-politics/wp/2014/03/26/obama-defends-iraq-invasion-a-little/

I was never a fan of Obama, I always knew he was a pathetic shill. The one good thing that I thought might happen was that he would get us out of the wars. Nope, it became pretty obvious pretty fast that he was just another war profiteer like Bush.

Everything he said is true except the parts that aren't. Why are Kosovo and Crimea different? Because a shooting war hasn't broken out yet? That doesn't make a lot of sense, people have to die first? Crimea is not and has never been Ukrainian. I believe in self determination and the precedent has been set after Kosovo, what right do you have to say that self determination for some is okay but not for others? 'We support the Ukrainian people and their right to choose their own future' unless you're from Crimea. America and its allies think they can run the world, false outrage about territorial integrity and constitutions that they share no concern about when it doesn't fit their interests.

There has been no self-determination in Crimea.

I said fairly on in the Ukrainian debacle that it should probably end with the country being split. However, it has been split by Russia illegally grabbing as much land as it can, and then holding sham referenda to give it an air of legitimacy. I support Crimea's right to self determination. It hasn't had that. It has been conquered.

I can't believe you're so blinded in your Obama hatred that you'd defend illegal invasions that are being condemned left right and centre. Even China refuses to recognise the annexation of Crimea as legitimate! China!

If Russia had stopped the violence, then withdrawn and allowed Russian-speaking Ukraine to decide which country to join, then that would be comparable to Kosovo. That hasn't happened. Take off your blinkers and look at the facts.

There. Was. No. Self. Determination. Russia determined that Crimea was part of Russia now. It's probably what the Crimeans would have chosen in an case, but they didn't have a choice.

"No bloodshed" also isn't quiet accurate. There have been three deaths. Ukrainian hostages have been shot in the legs and tortured with electric currents. But it is a very low body count, which is a good thing.

The Autonamus Republic of Crimea was joined with Ukraine in 1954, because they were Russian, and would tip the Ukraine vote, to the Russian side. They retained their own Parliment, and local law.

It worked, the last elected President was Russian, and elected by the Russian majority, where most of Russian investment has gone to Russian speaking areas.

Keeping the Black Sea Navel Base from falling to the neo nazis by removing their military power was a resonable response.

Two thirds of the Ukraine troops elected to stay, and join the Russian service. The Republic of Crimea, which was being disolved by nazis in Kiev abolishing their self government, elected to remain self governing and join the Russian Federation.

Crimea voted to maintain the status quo.

In the upcoming Ukraine vote, the majority voted in a Russia President, and will continue a democratic rule.

The Acting government was not voted in, and will be voted out in less than two months. If you hold that Crimea's action was illegal, they should get to vote in the next Ukraine election.

The US has many programs to turn out democratic voters in other countries, not so much in their own. Russia is doing the same providing pre election support to all the Russian speakers in Ukraine.

The west that supports the nazis, offers IMF slavery, a doubling of fuel prices, taxes, food, and a wage and pension cut.

Russia offers a Russian passport, free medical and education, in Russian, higher wages and pensions, and lower taxes.

The Ukraine State is bankrupt. It is also $150 Billion in debt. Abolishing the State would abolish the debt.

Perhaps a smaller Ukraine will survive, areas that vote in Polish, Hungarian, Romainian, Ukraine. Then they can have all the debt, and join NATO, the EU, and move to Paris.

Americans can renounce their citizenship, and taking their assets become citizens of another country.

Scotland is voting to leave Great Britian, and keep their land. Several areas of Spain are doing the same, and Venice from Italy. Purto Rico often votes to become a State, remain as is, or to become a country.

It is not unheard of, it is common, for people to chose their own future. We call it Freedom.

Russia had a right to base 25,000 troops in Crimea, and never had that many. Russia has a right to have unlimited troops in Russia, and deploy them as needed.

Like the navel base, if someone reads the Gazprom Contract, they own the pipeline, and a long term right of way.

Like Iraq or many other places, they could hire Blackwater to defend the pipeline, against anyone.

If eastern and southern Ukraine, and Transnitsia wanted to they could abolish their ties with Ukraine, partition the land, Take Russian Passports, and money, and join the Russian Federation.

International Law and common useage supports their rights. Common sense does also.

The choice is, will the next generation live in debt servitude worse than the Greeks, and have to speak Ukraine, or will they continue speaking Russian and have a much higher standard of living?