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29 May 2014, 10:22 pm

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F4OhXQTMOEc[/youtube]R.I.P Religon!


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30 May 2014, 5:46 am

Can't tell, because we don't get to see Ken Ham make his arguments.


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30 May 2014, 6:59 am

destroying Noah's Ark = RIP Noah's Ark, not RIP religion. There is more religion without that silly waterworld fable than with it.



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30 May 2014, 9:53 am

LoveNotHate wrote:
Can't tell, because we don't get to see Ken Ham make his arguments.


"The Bible says it, therefore it's true."

It really wasn't much of a debate. More of a sermon followed by a lecture on middle school science.



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30 May 2014, 10:23 am

This is one reason why I got so turned off by Atheism. How many times did I hear something along the lines of "since the Universe is greater than 6,000 years old and there was no Ark, that proves means life is meaningless and there is no God." I know plenty of religious people and have never met one that take the Old Testament tales like Noah's Ark literally.

I'm not religious, but I know there are is more to it than Fundamentalist Christian vs Hardcore Atheist.



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30 May 2014, 10:57 am

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This is one reason why I got so turned off by Atheism. How many times did I hear something along the lines of "since the Universe is greater than 6,000 years old and there was no Ark, that proves means life is meaningless and there is no God." I know plenty of religious people and have never met one that take the Old Testament tales like Noah's Ark literally.


This.


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30 May 2014, 11:20 am

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This is one reason why I got so turned off by Atheism. How many times did I hear something along the lines of "since the Universe is greater than 6,000 years old and there was no Ark, that proves means life is meaningless and there is no God." I know plenty of religious people and have never met one that take the Old Testament tales like Noah's Ark literally.

I'm not religious, but I know there are is more to it than Fundamentalist Christian vs Hardcore Atheist.


Oh, they're out there. I worked with a guy who literally thought the earth was 6,000 years old and that scientists were liars. He also literally believed that we speak different languages because we built a giant tower in Babel and that Christians needed to go to remote parts of the world to convert them and obliterate their culture. A friend of mine's mother believed the same things, and I can rattle off many more that I know of, but that would result in a waste of both our time. It's people like them that turned me off of religion.

By the way, I'm an atheist, and I don't believe there is no god just because certain myths don't exist; I don't see any empirical evidence which suggests to me that there is a god. Once I see evidence of a deity, I will accept the existence. For now, I live my life in an ethical manner and don't worry about an afterlife that may or may not exist.



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30 May 2014, 4:07 pm

GiantHockeyFan wrote:
This is one reason why I got so turned off by Atheism. How many times did I hear something along the lines of "since the Universe is greater than 6,000 years old and there was no Ark, that proves means life is meaningless and there is no God." I know plenty of religious people and have never met one that take the Old Testament tales like Noah's Ark literally.

I'm not religious, but I know there are is more to it than Fundamentalist Christian vs Hardcore Atheist.


I agree that debunking Biblical Literalism is not the same thing as bebunking religion.

But you would be amazed.

In highschool I thought that young earth creationism had died out with Scopes Monkey trial in the Twenties. But in college I saw a flyer for lecture on "why dinosaurs are not as plentiful as they once were" and thinking it was a joke I attended. It was a lecture by Raymond Gish-the famous modern champion of YEC of the Seventies. Also in college I encountered other students caught up in the modern resurgence of YEC. One guy got excited told me about how "the strata of fossils can be explained by the Biblical Flood". And then he went on to explain how "the big animals would sink lower in the mud deposited by the flood, and the small animals would be deposited higher- and thats why the dinosaurs are below humans in the rock strata"- illogic wrapped in illogic. But thats what turned him on.

Yep- YECs are definitely out there. And some of them can be OUT THERE!



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30 May 2014, 5:05 pm

I don't like Bill Nye, now adays. you don't believe in god others do and are happy in their beliefs, how about you just leave people alone to be happy. not everyone has to believe and think as he does.



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30 May 2014, 5:11 pm

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I don't like Bill Nye, now adays. you don't believe in god others do and are happy in their beliefs, how about you just leave people alone to be happy. not everyone has to believe and think as he does.

If one does not want their beliefs challenged, they need not seek out the opinions of scientists. Mr Nye has said in the past that he does not mind people being uninformed.

However, he does mind that uninformed indoctrinating their children, because that stops them from being able to usefully contribute to the fields in question. Hence why he has taken to challenge attempts to ban the teaching of evolution in schools, or allow the teaching of creationism in science lessons.



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30 May 2014, 7:44 pm

It was the termites that destroyed Noah's ark.

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30 May 2014, 9:27 pm

GiantHockeyFan wrote:
This is one reason why I got so turned off by Atheism. How many times did I hear something along the lines of "since the Universe is greater than 6,000 years old and there was no Ark, that proves means life is meaningless and there is no God." I know plenty of religious people and have never met one that take the Old Testament tales like Noah's Ark literally.

I'm not religious, but I know there are is more to it than Fundamentalist Christian vs Hardcore Atheist.


Where do Atheists insist that life is meaningless?



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30 May 2014, 10:59 pm

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I don't like Bill Nye, now adays. you don't believe in god others do and are happy in their beliefs, how about you just leave people alone to be happy. not everyone has to believe and think as he does.
Sometimes somebody has to tell the kids there is no santa clause or the monster in the closet as well!


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30 May 2014, 11:33 pm

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GiantHockeyFan wrote:
This is one reason why I got so turned off by Atheism. How many times did I hear something along the lines of "since the Universe is greater than 6,000 years old and there was no Ark, that proves means life is meaningless and there is no God." I know plenty of religious people and have never met one that take the Old Testament tales like Noah's Ark literally.

I'm not religious, but I know there are is more to it than Fundamentalist Christian vs Hardcore Atheist.


I agree that debunking Biblical Literalism is not the same thing as bebunking religion.

But you would be amazed.

In highschool I thought that young earth creationism had died out with Scopes Monkey trial in the Twenties. But in college I saw a flyer for lecture on "why dinosaurs are not as plentiful as they once were" and thinking it was a joke I attended. It was a lecture by Raymond Gish-the famous modern champion of YEC of the Seventies. Also in college I encountered other students caught up in the modern resurgence of YEC. One guy got excited told me about how "the strata of fossils can be explained by the Biblical Flood". And then he went on to explain how "the big animals would sink lower in the mud deposited by the flood, and the small animals would be deposited higher- and thats why the dinosaurs are below humans in the rock strata"- illogic wrapped in illogic. But thats what turned him on.

Yep- YECs are definitely out there. And some of them can be OUT THERE!


I commented on this matter before, but I'll chime again with, how is it that small creatures like trilobites had ended up at an even lower level than dinosaurs?


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31 May 2014, 1:31 am

Kraichgauer wrote:
naturalplastic wrote:
GiantHockeyFan wrote:
This is one reason why I got so turned off by Atheism. How many times did I hear something along the lines of "since the Universe is greater than 6,000 years old and there was no Ark, that proves means life is meaningless and there is no God." I know plenty of religious people and have never met one that take the Old Testament tales like Noah's Ark literally.

I'm not religious, but I know there are is more to it than Fundamentalist Christian vs Hardcore Atheist.


I agree that debunking Biblical Literalism is not the same thing as bebunking religion.

But you would be amazed.

In highschool I thought that young earth creationism had died out with Scopes Monkey trial in the Twenties. But in college I saw a flyer for lecture on "why dinosaurs are not as plentiful as they once were" and thinking it was a joke I attended. It was a lecture by Raymond Gish-the famous modern champion of YEC of the Seventies. Also in college I encountered other students caught up in the modern resurgence of YEC. One guy got excited told me about how "the strata of fossils can be explained by the Biblical Flood". And then he went on to explain how "the big animals would sink lower in the mud deposited by the flood, and the small animals would be deposited higher- and thats why the dinosaurs are below humans in the rock strata"- illogic wrapped in illogic. But thats what turned him on.

Yep- YECs are definitely out there. And some of them can be OUT THERE!


I commented on this matter before, but I'll chime again with, how is it that small creatures like trilobites had ended up at an even lower level than dinosaurs?
Trilobites have been around before dinosaurs which is why they are found at a lower level than the dinosaurs.


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31 May 2014, 1:46 am

AspieOtaku wrote:
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GiantHockeyFan wrote:
This is one reason why I got so turned off by Atheism. How many times did I hear something along the lines of "since the Universe is greater than 6,000 years old and there was no Ark, that proves means life is meaningless and there is no God." I know plenty of religious people and have never met one that take the Old Testament tales like Noah's Ark literally.

I'm not religious, but I know there are is more to it than Fundamentalist Christian vs Hardcore Atheist.


I agree that debunking Biblical Literalism is not the same thing as bebunking religion.

But you would be amazed.

In highschool I thought that young earth creationism had died out with Scopes Monkey trial in the Twenties. But in college I saw a flyer for lecture on "why dinosaurs are not as plentiful as they once were" and thinking it was a joke I attended. It was a lecture by Raymond Gish-the famous modern champion of YEC of the Seventies. Also in college I encountered other students caught up in the modern resurgence of YEC. One guy got excited told me about how "the strata of fossils can be explained by the Biblical Flood". And then he went on to explain how "the big animals would sink lower in the mud deposited by the flood, and the small animals would be deposited higher- and thats why the dinosaurs are below humans in the rock strata"- illogic wrapped in illogic. But thats what turned him on.

Yep- YECs are definitely out there. And some of them can be OUT THERE!


I commented on this matter before, but I'll chime again with, how is it that small creatures like trilobites had ended up at an even lower level than dinosaurs?
Trilobites have been around before dinosaurs which is why they are found at a lower level than the dinosaurs.


I know that, you know that, but fundies refuse to accept that.


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