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26 Sep 2014, 9:29 am

refuse to sit next to female human beings, and the crowd goes wild

http://freethinker.co.uk/2014/09/26/jew ... al-flight/



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26 Sep 2014, 10:15 am

fundies......ugh :roll:

This will happen again so El Al needs a plan in place. I recommend:

1)Allow a bulk purchase of a row of seats so the fundies can pool their money and sit together.

2)Remove anyone who refuses to sit down when it's time for takeoff.



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26 Sep 2014, 7:34 pm

Drop these idiots off in the ISIL controlled areas of Iraq and Syria. Sure, they very well be killed for being Jews, but at least they'd die among people who share their contempt for women!


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26 Sep 2014, 8:02 pm

Kraichgauer wrote:
Drop these idiots off in the ISIL controlled areas of Iraq and Syria. Sure, they very well be killed for being Jews, but at least they'd die among people who share their contempt for women!


You sound like a really lovely person.



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26 Sep 2014, 9:43 pm

YourMum wrote:
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Drop these idiots off in the ISIL controlled areas of Iraq and Syria. Sure, they very well be killed for being Jews, but at least they'd die among people who share their contempt for women!


You sound like a really lovely person.


Actually I am, but I'm intolerant of the intolerant.


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26 Sep 2014, 10:10 pm

Why on earth are fundies using such evil technology anyway?
If man was meant to fly, God would have given him airline tickets.


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27 Sep 2014, 9:08 am

You need to respect their religion and wishes. Especially with EL-AL being a jewish israeli airline. They should put measures in place for ultra orthodox people



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27 Sep 2014, 12:47 pm

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You need to respect their religion and wishes. Especially with EL-AL being a jewish israeli airline. They should put measures in place for ultra orthodox people


Uh, no. It's called tolerance. I don't care what religion you are, people need to show respect to others and treat others like they would want to be treated.



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27 Sep 2014, 2:29 pm

andrethemoogle wrote:
Israeli13 wrote:
You need to respect their religion and wishes. Especially with EL-AL being a jewish israeli airline. They should put measures in place for ultra orthodox people


Uh, no. It's called tolerance. I don't care what religion you are, people need to show respect to others and treat others like they would want to be treated.


That would be like an airline catering to American whites from the Bible Belt who didn't want to sit next to blacks or Non-Christians.


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27 Sep 2014, 5:11 pm

Israeli13 wrote:
You need to respect their religion and wishes. Especially with EL-AL being a jewish israeli airline. They should put measures in place for ultra orthodox people

It's not the woman infringing on their religion if they're the ones refusing to sit down next to her in a seat that she paid for.



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27 Sep 2014, 5:31 pm

Kraichgauer wrote:
I'm intolerant of the intolerant.


Then you're lying to yourself.



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27 Sep 2014, 5:35 pm

YourMum wrote:
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I'm intolerant of the intolerant.


Then you're lying to yourself.

The word you're looking for is 'hypocritical.' He'd only be lying to himself if he was in denial of the double standard.



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27 Sep 2014, 5:48 pm

YourMum wrote:
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I'm intolerant of the intolerant.


Then you're lying to yourself.


I am not. Am I to be tolerant of white supremacists? Or of Muslim extremists? I count these Jewish radicals as no different from the other purveyors of intolerance, and am intolerant of them for that reason. If that makes me a bad person in your book, then so be it, but I'm not going to look the other way when it comes to those who reject tolerance.


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27 Sep 2014, 7:28 pm

By the way, I was only being facetious about sending these idiots to their deaths. My real point was, they have so much in common with the idiots making up ISIL.


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27 Sep 2014, 7:45 pm

LKL wrote:
The word you're looking for is 'hypocritical.'


That would be the plainest way of saying it, but the point is that he believes he occupies the moral high ground when in fact he is subject to the same flawed process as those he opposes (intolerance). In this sense, he is lying to himself.



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27 Sep 2014, 7:47 pm

Kraichgauer wrote:
YourMum wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
I'm intolerant of the intolerant.


Then you're lying to yourself.


I am not. Am I to be tolerant of white supremacists? Or of Muslim extremists? I count these Jewish radicals as no different from the other purveyors of intolerance, and am intolerant of them for that reason. If that makes me a bad person in your book, then so be it, but I'm not going to look the other way when it comes to those who reject tolerance.


You can refuse to tolerate them, but then you can't honestly call yourself tolerant. All you can do is argue that tolerance is only virtuous according to its context, and that means that when the context is your own it bears no 'objective' moral relevance to those you oppose.