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05 Oct 2014, 5:51 pm

Sometime ago (quite long time actually:) ) I watched V for Vendetta, i just wonder about ending, when V effectively toppled down whole corrupted dictatorial British governed,

could be like him or not, but after its fall, the fictional England lost any power structure. I would like to think about when is it worth it to overthrow dictators, if you do not have a real idea of what to replace the deposed government.



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05 Oct 2014, 6:21 pm

I think Stephen Fry's ghost had things under control.

I see your point broadly - take a look at Libya as one example.

Ironically, the best example of a country built out of violent revolution - America - is also the main instigator (albeit often not through choice) of these ill thought out coups. France, too, to an extent. Any other good examples? Germany, maybe? India/Pakistan/Bangladesh? What about post-communist countries, who has flourished there?



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05 Oct 2014, 7:51 pm

The_Walrus wrote:
I think Stephen Fry's ghost had things under control.

I see your point broadly - take a look at Libya as one example.

Ironically, the best example of a country built out of violent revolution - America - is also the main instigator (albeit often not through choice) of these ill thought out coups. France, too, to an extent. Any other good examples? Germany, maybe? India/Pakistan/Bangladesh? What about post-communist countries, who has flourished there?


Exactly :D
As someone planning to blow up the government (in the case of V for vendetta literally and figuratively) good to have a plan of action prepared in advance, the road map, in order not to blow leading politicians, to leave the country completely in chaos.



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06 Oct 2014, 9:21 am

pawelk1986 wrote:
could be like him or not, but after its fall, the fictional England lost any power structure.


Some time ago I watched that movie. But considering the ending, he did only blow up the Parliament building? So that could mean that martial law would be declared, probably by the monarch. How could step in the place of the assassinated prime minister, until such time order has been restored. Or the UK in that universe could face a new Cromwell. Or foreign intervention.



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06 Oct 2014, 1:56 pm

Sigbold wrote:
pawelk1986 wrote:
could be like him or not, but after its fall, the fictional England lost any power structure.


Some time ago I watched that movie. But considering the ending, he did only blow up the Parliament building? So that could mean that martial law would be declared, probably by the monarch.

I can't remember exactly what the set up is in that film, but the monarch doesn't have that power in real life.



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07 Oct 2014, 12:51 am

The_Walrus wrote:
I can't remember exactly what the set up is in that film, but the monarch doesn't have that power in real life.


Could be, but be in such a case the king or queen would most likely be the one who make the announcement that martial law has been declared. Any power the sovereign would have in such a situation would probably depend on emergency laws.



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07 Oct 2014, 7:59 am

Sigbold wrote:
The_Walrus wrote:
I can't remember exactly what the set up is in that film, but the monarch doesn't have that power in real life.


Could be, but be in such a case the king or queen would most likely be the one who make the announcement that martial law has been declared. Any power the sovereign would have in such a situation would probably depend on emergency laws.



I do not think British queen or king risked to share the fate of the Romanov Family :D

Risked not to clash with an angry mob, who had just lynched the previous government, besides, I do not remember whether the UK presented in V for Vendetta was still a monarchy.



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07 Oct 2014, 9:37 am

pawelk1986 wrote:
I do not think British queen or king risked to share the fate of the Romanov Family :D


You mean being murdered by Marxist-Leninists? :roll:

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I do not remember whether the UK presented in V for Vendetta was still a monarchy.


If I remember the movie correctly, who was the head of state was not mentioned, or what form of state is had. So whether or not the UK in that fictional universe was still a parliamentary monarchy is open to debate.



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07 Oct 2014, 4:44 pm

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You mean being murdered by Marxist-Leninists? :roll:


Among other things, after all, no one in their right mind would risk a confrontation with an angry crowd with pitchforks :D

If Queen / King attempted to introduce a state of emergency could end up like Charles I Stuart, Louis XVI and Anna Antonina or Romanov royal family, grim perspective

I doubt whether the universe "V for Vendetta" Britain was a monarchy, because there was no mention of it