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15 Feb 2015, 5:51 pm

Like the kind that can cause an apocalypse is only 0.01%

http://rt.com/news/232591-12-causes-apo ... cientists/


Chance of nuclear war is only 0.005%



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15 Feb 2015, 7:05 pm

Those percentages aren't the odds of such a thing happening.
They are the odds of such a thing ending human civilization.

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Scientists from Oxford University's Future of Humanity Institute and the Global Challenges Foundation have compiled the first research on the topic, drawing a list of 12 possible ways that human civilization might end.


It's a pretty meaningful semantic difference. Any of those things could happen, but the odds are low that they would end human civilization. We have a way of surviving.

For instance they give the odds of a global pandemic ending human civilization at 0.0001%. Those are not the odds of such a thing happening. But there is precedent for civilization surviving the most horrendous of apocalyptic pandemics such as the Black Death. That civilization persisted didn't make it any less apocalyptic for the unlucky ones who lived and died in the midst of it.



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15 Feb 2015, 7:10 pm

The Apocalypse would mean the end of us.



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15 Feb 2015, 7:22 pm

ooOoOoOAnaOoOoOoo wrote:
The Apocalypse would mean the end of us.
While the Biblical Apocalypse would mean the end of humanity, the events that Janissy referred to are much more likely to happen in our lifetimes, than the realization of mere prophesy.


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15 Feb 2015, 9:12 pm

I interpret the actual apocalypse being the end of mankind otherwise it's just calamity.



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15 Feb 2015, 9:17 pm

There are various theories that Venus and Mars used to be life-filled worlds like Earth but were destroyed by runaway climate change, and it will probably one day happen to Earth, but the probability of it happening within the time span of humanity's existence, let alone our lifetimes, is extremely low.


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15 Feb 2015, 9:43 pm

Mars can't even generate it's own magnetic field so...it is worlds away from being an earth. Jupiter is more earth like in that respect. Mars is just a dead world, pretty much. If there's any life, it is primitive bacteria that can exist in ice or below the surface.

When scientists talk about Mars they always ignore the basic fact it is highly subject to fierce solar winds.



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15 Feb 2015, 9:48 pm

ooOoOoOAnaOoOoOoo wrote:
Mars can't even generate it's own magnetic field so...it is worlds away from being an earth. Jupiter is more earth like in that respect. Mars is just a dead world, pretty much. If there's any life, it is primitive bacteria that can exist in ice or below the surface.

When scientists talk about Mars they always ignore the basic fact it is highly subject to fierce solar winds.


But what if the life that evolved on Mars was resistant to Solar Wind? There are creatures on Earth that have already developed resistance to radiation, so is it really a stretch to say that something similar could have happened on Mars?


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15 Feb 2015, 9:50 pm

PhoenixFalcon wrote:
ooOoOoOAnaOoOoOoo wrote:
Mars can't even generate it's own magnetic field so...it is worlds away from being an earth. Jupiter is more earth like in that respect. Mars is just a dead world, pretty much. If there's any life, it is primitive bacteria that can exist in ice or below the surface.

When scientists talk about Mars they always ignore the basic fact it is highly subject to fierce solar winds.


But what if the life that evolved on Mars was resistant to Solar Wind? There are creatures on Earth that have already developed resistance to radiation, so is it really a stretch to say that something similar could have happened on Mars?

If Mars is a universal example, maybe life as we know it cannot evolve with those solar winds?



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15 Feb 2015, 9:57 pm

ooOoOoOAnaOoOoOoo wrote:
PhoenixFalcon wrote:
ooOoOoOAnaOoOoOoo wrote:
Mars can't even generate it's own magnetic field so...it is worlds away from being an earth. Jupiter is more earth like in that respect. Mars is just a dead world, pretty much. If there's any life, it is primitive bacteria that can exist in ice or below the surface.

When scientists talk about Mars they always ignore the basic fact it is highly subject to fierce solar winds.


But what if the life that evolved on Mars was resistant to Solar Wind? There are creatures on Earth that have already developed resistance to radiation, so is it really a stretch to say that something similar could have happened on Mars?

If Mars is a universal example, maybe life as we know it cannot evolve with those solar winds?


Right now, all that is certain is that Mars is currently a dead world. Whether it used to have life or never had life at all is purely based on speculation until decisive evidence is found.


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16 Feb 2015, 2:36 am

PhoenixFalcon wrote:
ooOoOoOAnaOoOoOoo wrote:
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ooOoOoOAnaOoOoOoo wrote:
Mars can't even generate it's own magnetic field so...it is worlds away from being an earth. Jupiter is more earth like in that respect. Mars is just a dead world, pretty much. If there's any life, it is primitive bacteria that can exist in ice or below the surface.

When scientists talk about Mars they always ignore the basic fact it is highly subject to fierce solar winds.


But what if the life that evolved on Mars was resistant to Solar Wind? There are creatures on Earth that have already developed resistance to radiation, so is it really a stretch to say that something similar could have happened on Mars?

If Mars is a universal example, maybe life as we know it cannot evolve with those solar winds?


Right now, all that is certain is that Mars is currently a dead world. Whether it used to have life or never had life at all is purely based on speculation until decisive evidence is found.

At one time it did have a magnetic field and lost it. The atmosphere was soon lost as well then went any complex life.



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16 Feb 2015, 3:14 am

ooOoOoOAnaOoOoOoo wrote:
...maybe life as we know it cannot evolve with those solar winds?

"Ever since the beginning of time, man has yearned to destroy the sun" - Mr. Burns



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16 Feb 2015, 3:30 am

I read that thing about the world ending. Their base was everyone dies.

The probability of extreme climate change is 100%.

130,000 out of the last 150,000 years has been an ice age. We are in an ice age, it is coming back.

The report included warming, not likely to kill everyone, but skipped cooling, which would kill more people fast.

Warming is the only thing that can save us from cooling, but Geologic Time runs slow, often with a thousand year lag between cause and effect.

I am not altering my plans based on current data.