Who was the first human?

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I wasn't always a fan of this man, but this is one of his best analogies:

Why not?

I felt he was too arrogant, too harsh on people's religious beliefs. Especially since I used to be one of them. Neil Degrasse Tyson had a go at him for being that way. But now I understand his motivation more and I tend to agree with him. Some people just don't know how to show their passion without it coming off as arrogant. I actually like the guy now.

I get what you're saying - there's something about him that can be easily perceived as condescending; but from watching a lot of interviews and debates he has done, and from reading a lot of his work; it seems that he has become so frustrated with Theists and their arguments that he has effectively "lost patience" and skips straight to the point he is making, sparing thoughts and feelings in the process.

What are your thoughts on Christopher Hitchens? I love(d) him, he was brutal

Hitchens is good, because he seems almost affable even when he has a go at someone. He knows the ancient tribes and writers well and seems comfortable and confident, which helps him to answer any challenge well, and challenge any answer. Yep.. I like him, and also Sam Harris, Richard Feynman, and Neil deGrasse Tyson. All great speakers, each in a different way.

Well...it certainly wasn't Adam.

I would say: the offspring of an Australopithecine ancestor who finally "went over the line" from hominid to human--an close ancestor of Homo Habilis.

I'm a big fan of Hitchens too; his knowledge of various scriptures was so vast and detailed, and coupled with what he knew about Human Psychology, Biology and History made him a formidable force. I found myself identifying with his viewpoint(s) so often, I sought out and watched as many of his debates as I could.

Sam Harris is also brilliant, particularly for his use of facts about the Human brain to explain all manners of nonsensical pseudo-Science and "spiritual" experiences.

I like Matt Dillahunty too, and also have a lot of admiration and respect for NGT; his 'Cosmos' series was brilliant, and should be made compulsory viewing in Schools.

I don't recall seeing Matt Dillahunty. I'll check him out.

As for Cosmos, it was a great series and I've sometimes shown students the Cosmic Calendar, to spark some discussion. Just brilliant.

Dillahunty is one of the (main) hosts of 'The Atheist Experience' Call-in/discussion WebShow on YouTube. He was a Christian Evangelical Preacher for 25 years, so he knows his stuff as well as any Theist who tries to argue (in fact better than most).

There's literally hundreds of episodes, but he has taken part in a few debates as well. A YouTube search for "best of The Atheist Experience" will give you a multitude of hilarious clips, featuring all sorts of idiots calling in . . . well worth a look, but I warn you, it will lower your opinion of humanity in general(!)

Dillahunty Quotes

Interesting, how some people feel that love is just a sticky gooey emotion that has no power.

The POTENTIAL FOR Unconditional Love is what separates HUMANS from SOME other animals.

And it is true that many Down's children express this greatest power of the human mind, as it inspires life like no other human power, be it tool or living flesh and blood.

Yes, it is proven as power to save human lives throughout human history.

People who do not understand this either have never experienced this kind of love or have extinguished the prior potential of it as a child through a life of mechanical leaning cognition activities, overall, instead of practicing, practicing human empathy per both the affective and cognitive kind.

People who do not feel much empathy tend to have less connection to what MOST PEOPLE describe as GOD per unconditional love for all that is, as is aka GOD too, per classical panTHEIST LEANING BELIEVING FOLKS.

RICHARD DAWKINS tweeted back in August that it would be immoral to bring a child with Down's syndrome into the world, as he 'FEELS' they have NO INHERENT productive value to human society.

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This MAN OBVIOUSLY KNOWS NOTHING ABOUT the power of unconditional love to utter such a 'COLD HEARTED BASTARD' WAY OF WORDS.

HOWEVER, obviously he knows not what he does, as HE IS THE ONE WHO IS so-called 'ret*d' IN EMOTIONAL INTELLIGENCE THAT IS HISTORICALLY SPEAKING the most important human intelligence for human survival, which does include the REAL POWER OF HUMAN UNCONDITIONAL LOVE, where the entire tribe is the prize and not just one selfish person's notion of reality for ALL FOLKS, AS THEIR OWN reality.

TO be clear Mr. Dawkins back-tracked on what he said after he WAS APPROPRIATELY SCOLDED BY THE WHOLE UNCONDITIONALLY loving TRULY LIVING portion of the world.

But that is what psychopathic leaning folks tend to do as history shows when their stone heart is exposed by their own mistake in words.

I can take Mr. Dawkins or leave him but believe in him, no way, as I for one can 'SEE RIGHT THROUGH HIM' EVEN THINGS he obviously cannot 'see' or may never be able to see in this lifetime, at least, in just my learned unconditionally loving opinion.

And yes, I Unconditionally Love and pray for Mr. Dawkins too, as I for one KNOW THAT THE real life MIRACLE of TRUE UNCONDITIONALLY LOVING LIVING LIFE, could potentially happen to him, too. :)

And then perhaps he will see that growing potential unconditionally loving FETUS life as gift and not TRASH.

AND THAT will Be JUST another potential real life human miracle.

But true, per analytical way of mind, I do not GIVE IT A CHANCE IN 'HELL', per the 'place' he lives in, at least for now that he is callously not likely even aware of.

This earth is both 'heaven and hell', and SOME of the folks in 'hell', don't realize it is 'hell', as I know for sure now through the greatest intelligence of all, emotional intelligence.

And the saddest part of all, is some folks do not realize the gift of 'Heaven' that is their fortune if PRACTICED AND exercised as such.

Will Mr. Dawkins ever get 'there' in this life; my computer mind says A RESOUNDING NO, AS YES, I too can think like him too, at will, thank GOD, and not 'HELL of prison' in that way.

Oh, and who was the first human.

That one's easy.

Some hairy monkey looking animal like me, with feeling for the tribe as whole. :)

That's actually the best, most simple, concise and to-the-point answer to the question. Brilliant

...as far as the "power of unconditional love" goes; yes indeed, the release of Dopamine, Norepinephrine, Serotonin, Oxytocin and Vasopressin to name a few into the brain can cause us to feel some strong emotions, and do and say some crazy stuff. It's all very poetic and romantic, but it is that and only that, and yes, it is what separates the incredible, evolved Human brain from other animals.

I was.

I went back in time and hit up some reasonably human looking cave honey after shooting her husband. I mean, sorta human looking anyway, with enough Wild Turkey in me. I then shot all other reasonably human looking...monkeys.

Sorry for that.

We have our standards, they are low, but we do have them.

Some say the first with an opposed thumb.

Some say the first to bang rocks together with intent.

Some look at the bonding of the family group, while others see the wisdom of hanging around people who run slower than you do.

I follow art and technology, something above the abilities of the other animals, but also many of our kind.

Tribalism and putting the Tribe God above all, is hard on the all. None of them have been into the love of grass and trees.

The first human will see the oneness of all life, and grow stronger and wiser by supporting all life.

They have not yet been born.

We see ourselves as the peak of something, yet we are the pit of something.

The land has been degraded, the oceans overfished for every species, then filled with plastics and other garbage. 90% of the Monarch butterflies died recently, Progress.

There is no love for the mother that bore you, or all of your siblings of other species.

There is no love for the force that took a billion years to create this wonder.

You have elevated yourself above Creation.

Your claims to have enslaved Creation as your tribal god, and how the tribe members treat each other as the highest goal, mean nothing to the Universe, do not think that you were to be the end result of a project billions of years old.

The purpose of life is to increase life. Born into a rich existance you destroyed it.

An unchecked parasite destroys its host then dies. In a thousand years it will be as if you never were.

That is both beautiful and true, and what one can find in truth for now, is now, I for one am a lot like a 'Neanderthal' too, as I have escaped the culture that took that innate nature away and once again am undomesticated, wild, and free! :)

So yeah, RDOS in a way, was right all along, in what really matters, TRUTH.

NO MATTER HOW HARD IT CAN BE TO HEAR AND LEARN. ;)

Thanks, and it is liberating to live that way and just say f**/FREE/FUN everything else.

Of course in my case, being retired is the difference between the improbability of being able to truly AFFECT/effect IT/that and the reality of THAT/it. :)

BUT IN ANY case, true human freedom is cool, however one may arrive at this simple balanced way of life.