I cannot comprehend Gamergate

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A woman cheated on her boyfriend. Anti-feminists used this as proof that Cultural Marxist misandrists are trying to ruin fun for everyone by sleeping with no-name journalists.

For more information, http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Gamergate

A few people on Twitter (known as Twits) shouted at each other and sent each other death threats.

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This has been disproved quite a bit that no one slept around with anyone and it's just an excuse for pathetic manchildren to hate one women in games and to drive their opinions away. Gamergate was founded on misogyny and promoting hatred to those who aren't straight while males.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=918685

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The primary focus of Gamergate was a specific group of white male journalists in positions of authority, who form a clique that collaborates in order to control the political narrative of the sites they run in order to control opinions.

Gamergate was founded as a protest against widespread corruption in (especially online) games journalism. Speaking as someone who could be considered 'part of the problem', I'm inclined to agree with them. Crony-ism, nepotism, collusion, censorship, etc are everyday occurrences in a field that is almost exclusively populated by one gender.

The "Quinngate" nonsense was the by-product of a toxic relationship that spilled over into the internet because her ex claimed to be a victim of abuse. By twisting the narrative to portray Quinn as a powerless victim and anyone who offered even the remotest bit of sympathy for her ex as a misogynist, said sites gained themselves thousands upon thousands of additional hits, pissed off their regular loyal readership and backed themselves into a corner.

If you want to understand Gamergate, go and read what they have to say and try to perceive the writers and contributors as human beings who feel like they've been lied to and betrayed by those they supported, rather than demonising and dismissing them with childish labels.



Was this meant as evidence of something, or just a link to your echo chamber of preference?

Yes, perhaps I should have been more clear. I thought it would be clear that "ruin fun for everyone" was ridiculous hyperbole intended to mock the GGers. The idea that Quinn slept with Grayson so that he would make a passing positive reference to one of her games many months later is, of course, ridiculous.


I saw far more mentions of Anita Sarkeesian, Felicia Day, Brianna Wu, Jenn Frank, and, yes, Zoe Quinn, than any male journalist.


Even if they've been lied to about the relative quality of games, why does that result in bullying and threatening any woman who wanders into their path without supporting them?

First, "primary focus was".

Second, the individuals you mention are all the subjects of numerous mainstream opinion pieces on those self-same sites, written by those male journalists and edited by their paymasters.



Do you have a source for your claims? Names of the bullies and threat-makers? Any evidence at all that it was anything more than the usual subset of people being a**holes on the internet?

For those who really want to understand the whole debacle, this splendidly objective article sums it up quite well:

gamergate-explained-everybody-fighting

As for the doxing, the smear, the drama and all round shitstorm on reddit, twitter, etc, I advise you to proceed with caution, and only if you're absolutely desperate to know what's what. Frankly, if you don't already know then you probably don't need or want to.

I think a lot of it was to do with people who have been playing games for years, decades even, don't like it when noobs come in and start criticising their games and claiming "gamers are dead". Which is understandable - if you're a fan of a band, have been for a decade, and suddenly a bunch of newfans come in and start criticising all the old songs, all the various idiosyncrasies of the fandom... wouldn't you get pissed off?

Except these immature little s**ts are focusing ALL of their attacks on women in gaming and technology. If you're defending their vile threats, you're no better than them.

Sorry, but if people can't see this is a misogynistic movement and a hate campaign against those who aren't straight while males, you're a joke. Gaming isn't a f****n' boys club, and never was. Neither was technology, yet sexism still prevails in that industry (how many female programmers do you see versus male?).

Also, corruption exists in every media form if you don't live under a rock. Stop goddamn cherry picking and going after only female journalists / programmers / designers / media figures.

BTW, Gamergate was founded on a hashtag related to that Zoe Quinn video (which has been disproved), so f**k that noise if you say it wasn't founded on the harassment of women.

Indeed, how dare "immature little s**ts" insult people. You, clearly, would never be offensive to anyone.

A clear example of what GamerGate is - a shit-tossing contest between two groups of monkeys. Except these monkeys are capable of writing death threats to each other (yes, the death threats are coming from both sides). Fortunately, most of them are restricted to 140 characters in which to moan.

There are, indeed, people trying to have an actual discussion amidst the mess, but with the MRAs and RadFems slinging twit everywhere, it all becomes rather difficult to be heard and to hear.

BTW, the reason for there being less female programmers isn't really to do with sexism in the industry. It's been going on for while, the gender imbalance in computer science classes, going back to the early days, when companies decided to market computers to geeky men.

Gamergate supporters can claim whatever they want about thier movement, but actions speak louder than words. There's nothing about gamergate "activism" that supports it being about games journalism more than it is about silencing women who dare speak about the hobby.

Not to mention the fact that game's journalism isn't real journalism nor is it an issue of any real importance. If you're going to disguise your hate movement as an activist one, find an actual issue to do it with.

As an avid gamer, I find myself deeply embarassed by you and everyone involved. Gamergate is like the teaparty movement for socially awkward nerds. Sad reactionary extreamism routed in backwords bigotry........

When did I claim to be involved with gamergate? As a lifelong avid human being, who incidentally happens to have turned gaming into a career, I'm disgusted by judgemental people who speak (or indeed type) before thinking. My personal interest stems from a desire for transparency in my chosen profession.

As Magneto pointed out:



Kindly fling your twit elsewhere, Geekonychus, I'm not interested in your binary-think baloney.

When your "movement" is mired with pedophiles (looking at a specific chan website), racists, homophobes, transphobes, ableists, misogynists and hateful individuals, it's time to step back and look at why you support it or even claim it was founded on "ethics".

If you want transparency, focus on it without attacking goddamned people. Be rational, not like these fuckwits that follow Adam Baldwin and his menagerie of sexist asswads. Just don't follow Gamergate, as it will ruin you in the industry.

You say you aren't afiliated with gamergate and yet you spent this whole thread parroting the gamergate lie about "ethics in game journalism" even when that's clearly not what it's really about.

Screw you, I'm #NotYourShield. But the Anti-GG set is also filled with hateful individuals. It's hate galore! Emperor Palpatine would be pleased.