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14 Jun 2015, 10:44 am

I mean, c'mon. Everyone knows he's half white. By the one-drop rule, he's white.


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14 Jun 2015, 11:12 am

He knows he's white!



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14 Jun 2015, 11:19 am

"The one drop rule" works the other way, thats why Obama who was raised by his white mom and grandparents going to elite schools in Hawaii is considered to be black. I imagine I probably had quite a bit more exposure to African American culture than Obama did during his childhood, it really wasn't until Barack was in college and left Hawaii that he started really identifying as black. The one drop rule really is an ugly cultural artifact of this country, it won't leave people's minds even now even benevolently. Someone that isn't 100% lily white isn't thought of as white at all in this country, I know foreigners are always pretty amused at how Americans identify as like 1/32 something but I imagine this idea of the one drop rule is what gave it relevance.



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14 Jun 2015, 11:23 am

If Obama wasn't president, he could say the N-word around other inner-city blacks and get away with it.



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14 Jun 2015, 11:26 am

Jacoby wrote:
"The one drop rule" works the other way, thats why Obama who was raised by his white mom and grandparents going to elite schools in Hawaii is considered to be black. I imagine I probably had quite a bit more exposure to African American culture than Obama did during his childhood, it really wasn't until Barack was in college and left Hawaii that he started really identifying as black. The one drop rule really is an ugly cultural artifact of this country, it won't leave people's minds even now even benevolently. Someone that isn't 100% lily white isn't thought of as white at all in this country, I know foreigners are always pretty amused at how Americans identify as like 1/32 something but I imagine this idea of the one drop rule is what gave it relevance.



And yet you could have a black great great great grandmother and still have blond, straight-as-a-board hair, and blue eyes. No one would ever guess. All it takes is a few generations of grandparents marrying and procreating with partners that look like themselves and it buries all the genes from further back. So I don't know how the "one drop" rule applies.
At one point the genes might creep up but the odds are greater they won't. They will just stay recessive until paired with genes like themselves. They could present a little but it would be subtle, as in the shape of the nose or body. Hair could be wavy.



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14 Jun 2015, 12:06 pm

ooOoOoOAnaOoOoOoo wrote:
And yet you could have a black great great great grandmother and still have blond, straight-as-a-board hair, and blue eyes.....

Yep. Genealogy helps. I am a 42 great grandson of Muhammad and a 119 great grandson of King David (making me also a cousin to Jesus), but my DNA (and appearance) is strongly Celtic. Now, it is possible that the Victorian pedigree is inaccurate or that genealogical genetic markers mutate faster than the overall human DNA (I bet a little of each).


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14 Jun 2015, 12:09 pm

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ooOoOoOAnaOoOoOoo wrote:
And yet you could have a black great great great grandmother and still have blond, straight-as-a-board hair, and blue eyes.....

Yep. Genealogy helps. I am a 42 great grandson of Muhammad and a 119 great grandson of King David (making me also a cousin to Jesus), but my DNA (and appearance) is strongly Celtic. Now, it is possible that the Victorian pedigree is inaccurate or that genealogical genetic markers mutate faster than the overall human DNA (I bet a little of each).

So you are saying two caucasian parents suddenly find their newborn has a mutated gene and is thus a different race? Show me an example of this happening that was proven to be from mutation, not recessive genes.

Btw my family has generations of straight hair. How come no one has experienced one of these magical mutations?



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14 Jun 2015, 12:20 pm

ooOoOoOAnaOoOoOoo wrote:
So you are saying two caucasian parents suddenly find their newborn has a mutated gene and is thus a different race...?

No, simply genetic preponderance.


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14 Jun 2015, 12:22 pm

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If Obama wasn't president, he could say the N-word around other inner-city blacks and get away with it.

:lol:


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14 Jun 2015, 12:35 pm

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ooOoOoOAnaOoOoOoo wrote:
So you are saying two caucasian parents suddenly find their newborn has a mutated gene and is thus a different race...?

No, simply genetic preponderance.

Take disorders affecting one's height. Some of them are mutations yet they are still considered quite rare in the population. This suggest mutations affecting appearance might be rare.



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14 Jun 2015, 1:00 pm

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If Obama wasn't president, he could say the N-word around other inner-city blacks and get away with it.


Is an inner city black somehow blacker?


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14 Jun 2015, 1:19 pm

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If Obama wasn't president, he could say the N-word around other inner-city blacks and get away with it.


Is an inner city black somehow blacker?


Depends what they look like. :roll:



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14 Jun 2015, 3:26 pm

He's probably whiter than most people on this forum.



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14 Jun 2015, 3:45 pm

Neither I, nor (afiak) any of my neighbors have accepted billions of dollars from telecom companies and executives. I believe the same can be said of most real black men.


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14 Jun 2015, 3:48 pm

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He's probably whiter than most people on this forum.

Mmm. Not me. Not me by a long shot. I don't know what the DNA is for flying reindeer, but both my Y-DNA and mtDNA are about as Celtic/Nordic white as they come. I glow in the dark. :D


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14 Jun 2015, 5:28 pm

In the Jim Crow Southern USA if you're one part in sixteen Black ( and fifteen parts White) then you were legally defined as "Black". So our chief executive would have been legally defined by Whites in the South as a "plain ol' n-word".

In the Dominican Republic he would be considered "mulatto", and therefore a cut above 'Blacks' ( ie the darker migrants crossing the border from Haiti).

In Belfast he would be "a Protestant from America", and therefore better than those trouble making local Irish Catholics who happened to have light skin.

But be that as it may -what matters is that here in the US both Blacks and Whites go by the Jim Crow rules of the past. So here in the USA he is "Black".