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Although I have found that most people on WP are socialists and communists I thought there have to be at least a few conservatives on Wrong Planet.

To kick off this thread I found a video that champions the constitution

Je vous presente Rand Paul!

Socialist? Communist? I sure hope you're kidding.

WP definitely leans left, like much of the web, but I'd hardly call it majority socialist and or communist.

Leaning left is one thing but being a "communist" is another (do people actually know what that term really means).

These are my political views (keep in mind I'm Canadian)

- I believe in being fiscally conservative and balancing the countries budget. We have done this in Canada

- religion has absolutely no place in politics

- abortion (same as above) is entirely up to the woman, her partner and her family. Not "the government"

- I am anti immigration because of the element of criminality it brings.

- I do not support legalization of Marijuana.

- I support taxes as I feel like it improves society and keeps things in order.

Given all of that I'm not exactly sure where I "fall". I am somewhat left leaning but also conservative too (but not in a religious way)

Most of the liberals in the U.S. would be considered pretty conservative by European standards. Too many Americans have no real clue what real socialism is because their knowledge of the rest of the world is minimal. That's why I always get a kick out of right-wingers calling Obama a socialist -- or even more hysterical, a Marxist.

Don't forget, those socialists may-well-be libertarian socialists.

Republicans are not necessary conservative, many are RINO's.

This is an example of the kind of assumption, exaggeration and polarizing rhetoric that is in great abundance in one country, the same place as "with us or against us."

I wouldn't say "most". True, there are a number of vocal participants who think it's proper to boss people around at gunpoint so long as it's done via the apparatus of the State. Most of these favor the sort of soft fascism which has been the core of Democrat policies since FDR's day. A few call for outright dictatorship. (Some seem to be here practically 24/7, and you may draw your own conclusions about that.) However, if you'll look at the political spectrum thread you'll see that there are many of us on the other side.

Just to confuse things, I think of myself as a classical liberal.

I'm Canadian, but I'm very into US politics. By US standards, I'd be moderate leaning right. I respect Ron Paul a lot, but not so much a fan of Rand (:

Evidence, Please?

1) There is no category in our profiles for political affiliation.

2) Our profile pages don't seem to work consistently, anyway.

3) The 'data' from any ersatz polls found on WP is spurious or out-dated, at best.

4) Rand Paul is an ignorant, back-pedaling politician who will say one thing one day, and deny it the next.

"I have heard of many tragic cases," said Mr. Paul, "of walking, talking normal children who wound up with profound mental disorders after vaccines."

Following the ensuing firestorm, the Republican senator from Kentucky insisted, "I did not say vaccines caused disorders, just that they were temporally related."

In other words, Mr. Paul spoke out of ignorance, and later said that he didn't say it. Further, he blamed his troubles on the "liberal media" which reported that, in 2009, he had called mandatory vaccinations a step toward "martial law".

5) Rand Paul enjoys the title of 'Doctor', yet the ersatz 'medical' certification board he created so that he could be its president (the National Board of Ophthalmology) is not officially recognized by the American Board of Medical Specialties. In addition, Mr. Rand's American Board of Ophthalmology certification lapsed on December 31, 2005. Thus, Mr. Rand's ophthalmology practice is uncertified. In other words, he is no longer a doctor, even though he still flaunts the title; and Rand Paul has less than the proverbial "Snowball's chance in Hell" of ever being elected president.

6) I declare "No Political Affiliation" whenever I go to the polls.

I'm basically a Classical Liberal. That is nothing like what is called liberal today.

The closest thing to a Classical Liberal is the Libertarians. The major reason I don't identify with Libertarians is that they rely on Ayn Rand for their "philosophy". I find Ayn Rand's so-called "philosophy" to be morally bankrupt. Oddly enough, even though the Libertarians have adopted Ayn Rand as their great leader, Ayn Rand detested the Libertarian Party and refused to have anything to do with them.

On the other hand, Classical Liberalism will take you to some of the same general positions but without Ayn Rand's Objectivist claptrap.

If you want to learn about Classical Liberalism, read Liberalism by Ludwig von Mises. It is available on-line at http://mises.org/library/liberalism-classical-tradition.

Another excellent book to read is The Road to Serfdom by Friedrich von Hayek.

People keep saying this, but I have never seen any real arguments for it. For example, American style conservatives argue in favor of free markers, which in Europe a selling points for liberals. Also a few years ago I have read a book with essays written by political scientists about right wing politics in the Netherlands, and one of the essays states that the VVD is between the Republican and Democratic party ideology wise. Also to further confuse matters for you : http://www.brusselsjournal.com/node/1682 An article where Dutch socialist Jan Marijnissen is compared with American paleoconservative Buchanan.

Liberals call conservatives nazis and conservatives call liberals communists. It's polarizing but fun.
I think we got the better label of the two because nazis get to wear snazzier looking uniforms than do the communists.
Don't you agree?

I'm not overly political but over the years I think I've drifted towards libertarianism.

I'm liberal on many social issues (pro-abortion, pro-legalized drugs and prostitution, non-religous), but have noticed that the government is awfully wasteful when it comes to spending $ compared to private organizations. I've recently worked in a university hospital and at a VA medical center, the differences are really unbelievable. From an organizational perspective, the VA is just broken and the government can't/won't do anything to fix it.

I've also found the government is just pathetic at basic things such as maintaining roads and infrastructure. Not sure what the solution is though.

Right-wing authoritarians definitely seem to get their uniforms right.