Food Sink
All this talk about carbon dioxide and how it's causing climate change while there are still people in the world without food. Why not just capture the carbon by creating food sinks for all the hungry people?
With climate change, they only talk about half the picture. Huge sinks the world over are what capture the carbon dioxide. Huge filters for the atmosphere, you could call them. It seems like a simple solution. Create huge sinks with vegetation which would in turn, feed everyone. The trade off would be humans having less "freedom" as in, they couldn't interfere with vegetation sinks or the amount of space they are needed to grow in.
Malnutrition is prevalent in most of the world today and people go hungry right here in the US. Imagine what that will be like by the year 2050. Think of how many more people will be in existence then. Have you thought about if the resources are there to provide for all these people?
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Ana, answer this question. What happens to the captured CO2 captured in your vegetable sink, once the plant is harvested, cooked and digested,
Or put another way what is one of the main excreted waste products of human metabolism.
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These "Carbon Sinks" you speak of require water and constant care. They also do not permanently trap carbon. When vegetation decays (or is digested), it releases carbon-based gases back into the atmosphere.
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They will continually be replanted and growing food so they are harvested at different times so large sections always have vegetation. Crop rotation adds nutrients to the soil. It's a matter of planting, harvesting, rotating, replanting, harvesting, planting, harvesting, rotating, replanting, harvesting.
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Ana you are suggesting a system with similar traits as a perpetual motion machine, and neither work for very similar reasons.
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No, Nat. We can't have farms anymore. All that diesel smoke from tractors and combines, coupled with the methane from livestock serves only to increase the effects of global warming.
We must go back to being a species of hunter-gatherers, back before anyone knew how to start a fire and cook with it. Fire produces carbon-based greenhouse gases, so we must all learn to eat raw meat, fruits, and vegetables, as well as the live parasites that live within them.
We can no longer build homes or manufacture clothing because those processes involve intensive use of fossil fuels and carbon-based chemicals. So we will have to become a species of naked and homeless hunter-gatherers, as well.
We will all likely die by the age of forty, but at least we'll die breathing clean air!
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We already have a giant carbon sink that needs protection; the Amazon Rainforest, our global lungs. It's light on food but it inhales C02 and exhales O2 and we need that.
Farms can be carbon sinks if we alter current agricultural practices.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carbon_sink
As to the captured carbon that is part of plants that in turn becomes part of human waste:
http://www.marinij.com/general-news/20140317/marin-research-on-human-waste-compost-could-benefit-the-planet
"A lot of it could be put back on the landscape and it starts inhaling atmosphere carbon," Wick said. "That's the big picture."
It's estimated that over the past 150 years, between 50 and 80 percent of topsoil worldwide has been lost and that more than a third of the carbon dioxide added to the atmosphere during that time has come from changes in land use.
Soil carbon absorption, or "sequestration," is the process of moving carbon dioxide from the atmosphere into the soil. Through photosynthesis, plants pull carbon dioxide out of the atmosphere and transfer that carbon below ground via roots and to the soil surface.
Wick, co-founder of the Marin Carbon Project, believes human compost could play a role in rejuvenating the land while helping rein in global warming.
On Monday a group of students from Kenneth Frost's environmental chemistry class at Dominican University came to the Wick ranch to hear about carbon and converting human waste into fertilizer. On Wednesday they will perform DNA tests on the material.
"The idea that you could put a little compost on land and enhance the fertility and enhance the water-holding capability, while increasing the amount of carbon stored in the soil means we have an opportunity to make a change," Frost said. "This is the most important climate mitigation project going on."
Human waste as fertilizer (traditionally called "night soil") is used often in the developing world but not in the developed. In the developing world its use helps spread intestinal parasites and that is a dealbreaker for those who have access to other fertilizers. It's just not sanitary. But with ingenuity we could change that and make it safe. I think this is a solvable problem.
