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12 Feb 2015, 9:25 pm

It is often the case that our strong intuitions about future events turn out to be accurate. Some people think that these apparent prophecies are literal echoes from the future. Another hypothesis is that subconsciously perceived cultural information about plausible future events can make accurate predictions seem like prophecy.

Do you ever feel like you are accurately intuiting future events in a way that seems uncanny? Are you having dreams that feel prophetic?



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12 Feb 2015, 10:19 pm

I believe the mind is capable of making quantum leaps that seem like intuition but which are like muscle memory logic. At times these will come to us and feel like powerful intuition because they come true. And other times that subconscious logic turns out to be wrong. But we don't take much note of when it gets it wrong, so it seems like it happens more often that it probably does. This is different to tossing a coin because we're more focused on how often we get that right. Coincidence and intuition often seem like something prophetic.

I once listened to a whole sermon, and then just before the preacher tied it all neatly into one sentence, I whispered that sentence to a friend. Moments later when the preacher spoke the exact same words, my friend's jaw hit the ground as she stared at me. At the time, I was convinced it was further evidence of my gift of prophecy. Decades later I understood that my mind made a simple quantum leap in subconscious logic.


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12 Feb 2015, 10:24 pm

If I predict that a project will fail, people will remember my prediction when the failure occurs; but when the project succeeds, no one seems to remember my prediction.

It's called "Bias Confirmation", and it happens more often than not.

There's nothing 'psychic' about it.


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13 Feb 2015, 3:52 am

Nebogipfel wrote:
It is often the case that our strong intuitions about future events turn out to be accurate.


Evidence please.


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13 Feb 2015, 6:57 am

I don't have any.

I am mainly talking about intuition, more than pre-cognition. If a lot of people were having nightmares about meteorites, for example, then there's a chance that their subconscious has figured out something real and impending. Like how we sometimes figure out puzzle solutions in sleep.

It's been hypothesised that shamanistic practices in nomadic societies are about accessing the problem solving abilities of the subconscious. Recurring dreams and things like that might be worth paying attention to.



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13 Feb 2015, 7:30 am

Nebogipfel wrote:
I don't have any...
Because there is none.
Nebogipfel wrote:
I am mainly talking about intuition, more than pre-cognition. If a lot of people were having nightmares about meteorites, for example, then there's a chance that their subconscious has figured out something real and impending. Like how we sometimes figure out puzzle solutions in sleep.
Like that odd feeling I get when someone is lying. So many people have lied to me so often that I have an intuitive impression of "Here we go again".
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It's been hypothesised that shamanistic practices in nomadic societies are about accessing the problem solving abilities of the subconscious. Recurring dreams and things like that might be worth paying attention to.
Like that recurring dream wherein I am flying naked over the city I rule, and no one notices me? Or the one wherein I am the only person left on Earth because they all went someplace else and didn't invite me?


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14 Feb 2015, 7:58 am

You are essentially asking about the "self-fulfilling prophecy."

If you believe X is inevitable, do you make X happen?

It's an interesting debate as sometimes X is something completely outside your sphere of influence and subject to those who do not believe in X. In such cases, is there some kind of gestalt consciousness guiding events?



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14 Feb 2015, 5:00 pm

zer0netgain wrote:
You are essentially asking about the "self-fulfilling prophecy."

If you believe X is inevitable, do you make X happen?

It's an interesting debate as sometimes X is something completely outside your sphere of influence and subject to those who do not believe in X. In such cases, is there some kind of gestalt consciousness guiding events?


Not necessarily "guiding" events.Just predicting. A person might pick up clues to trends that they themselves may not be consciously aware of that cause them to make accurate predictions- that seem psychic-but arent. Like you might "sense" someone is angry because they rattle the newspaper louder than usual- but you might not be consciously aware of the louder newspaper rattling because your mind analyzes it subconsciously. Maybe.



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15 Feb 2015, 1:16 pm

That is what I mean, yes. The problem with sifting the subconscious for clues about the future, is that a lot of the ideas bouncing around in there come from the lies that permeate our society. I would put more stock in the dreams of a nomad as they regard knowledge concerning their lifestyle, than I would modern people plugged into the modern news and entertainment mediums, simply because more of the nomads input comes from the real world so it's much easier to make useful extrapolations from that. That is my guess.

If anyone would like to know what my subconscious is worried about as manifested in dreams, It is concerned that our lives and civilisations exist only in the instant between time travellers creating the time line and their altering it again. That and a couple of mundane things like drowning.

Who was it who said that modern life felt like someone had hacked into the simulation of our universe, and was beginning to insert incongruous things there? I "feel" this to be the case.