Zechariah 12
02 Apr 2015, 11:56 pm
Zechariah 12:1-14 CEV
Has this event happened yet or not? I think it hasn't yet, because of this passage: "I, the LORD, will make the descendants of David and the people of Jerusalem feel deep sorrow and pray when they see the one they pierced with a spear. They will mourn and weep for him, as parents weep over the death of their only child or their first-born." The One who was pieced with a spear, that was Christ on the cross. So, most of the Jewish people haven't yet gone about doing that and most Messianic Jews are looked down upon by, well, pretty much everyone. But, no, this hasn't happened yet and I think it is obvious though that the nations all being against Israel is starting to happen and the attacking nations being set on fire is going to happen.
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04 Apr 2015, 6:17 am
Well it certainly hasn't happened yet, the "One whom they pierced with a spear" is Jesus Christ, the current inhabitants of Jerusalem certainly don't weep and mourn for him, rather they insult him by saying he is being boiled in semen and that his Mother was a whore.
My guess is that it refers to Jerusalem when Gods Kingdom lead by Jesus comes, it reigns for 1000 years and at the end when Satan is released from his prison he gets the surrounding nations to attack Jerusalem:- Revelation 20 :- 7 Now when the thousand years have expired, Satan will be released from his prison 8 and will go out to deceive the nations which are in the four corners of the earth, Gog and Magog, to gather them together to battle, whose number is as the sand of the sea. 9 They went up on the breadth of the earth and surrounded the camp of the saints and the beloved city. And fire came down from God out of heaven and devoured them.
Don't think that the present "Israel" is being referred to in scripture apart from Matthew 23, Revelation 17 and 18 where Jerusalem is called a Harlot, "Babylon the Great" that rules over the Governments of the Earth via its control of the banking system, (read Revelation 18).
Its inhabitants are not descendants of the Promise to Abraham, but Ashkenazi Jews who only converted to Judaism after God had ended the religion with the destruction of the Temple by the Romans.
Besides, when the Bible talks about Israel, it is talking about all 12 tribes being regathered, not just the one tribe of the Jews, whilst Man might have lost the genealogy of the lost tribes, God himself hasn't.
The present Israel faces complete destruction by Gods agents within the 42 month rulership of the One World Government to be formed by the anti-Christ or Dijall as the Muslims call him, he is identified by a "floating eye" (like the one on the back of the Dollar and the roof of the Israeli Supreme Court).
Revelation 18
2 And he cried mightily[a] with a loud voice, saying, “Babylon the great is fallen, is fallen, and has become a dwelling place of demons, a prison for every foul spirit, and a cage for every unclean and hated bird! 3 For all the nations have drunk of the wine of the wrath of her fornication, the kings of the earth have committed fornication with her, and the merchants of the earth have become rich through the abundance of her luxury.”
4 And I heard another voice from heaven saying, “Come out of her, my people, lest you share in her sins, and lest you receive of her plagues. 5 For her sins have reached[b] to heaven, and God has remembered her iniquities. 6 Render to her just as she rendered to you,[c] and repay her double according to her works; in the cup which she has mixed, mix double for her. 7 In the measure that she glorified herself and lived luxuriously, in the same measure give her torment and sorrow; for she says in her heart, ‘I sit as queen, and am no widow, and will not see sorrow.’ 8 Therefore her plagues will come in one day—death and mourning and famine. And she will be utterly burned with fire, for strong is the Lord God who judges[d] her.
