Calls make police look more racist than they are

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We live in a profoundly racist society.

Can't disagree with that. Someone sees black or brown faces, and immediately think something illegal is going on.

As convincing as anecdotal evidence from a blog can be, I chose to stick with federal statistical evidence.

Despite making up just 13 percent of the U.S. population, blacks commit around half of homicides in the United States. U.S. Bureau of Justice Statistics ( http://www.bjs.gov/content/pub/pdf/htus8008.pdf ) show that, between 1980 and 2008, blacks committed 52 percent of homicides, compared to 45 percent of homicides committed by whites. More up-to-date FBI statistics ( http://www.fbi.gov/stats-services/crimestats ) tell a similar story. In 2013, black criminals carried out 38 percent of murders, compared to 31.1 percent for whites, despite the fact that there are five times more white people in the United States.

Between 2011 and 2013, 38.5 percent of people arrested for murder, manslaughter, rape, robbery and aggravated assault were black. This figure is three times higher than the 13-percent black population figure. When you account for the fact that black males aged 15 to 34, who account for around three percent of the population, are responsible for the vast majority of these crimes, the figures are even more staggering.

Despite the fact that black people commit an equal or greater number of violent crimes than whites, whites are almost twice as likely to be killed by law-enforcement officers. According to U.S. Centers for Disease Control data ( http://www.politifact.com/punditfact/st ... tes-blacks ), between 1999 and 2011, 2,151 whites died as a result of being shot by police compared to 1,130 blacks. Critics argue that black people are overrepresented in these figures because they only represent 13 percent of the population, but they are underrepresented if you factor in violent-crime offenders. In other words, you would expect the number of blacks and whites killed by police to be roughly equal given that they commit a roughly equal number of violent crimes, but that’s not the case. Whites are nearly 100 percent more likely to be victims.

What about black-on-white violence in general? Despite being outnumbered by whites five to one, blacks commit eight times more crimes against whites than vice versa, according to FBI statistics ( http://news.yahoo.com/black-americas-re ... 00529.html ) from 2007. A black male is 40 times as likely to assault a white person as the reverse. These figures also show that interracial rape is almost exclusively black on white.

So, if people report (or exaggerate) witnessed crimes based on the race of the alleged criminals, it might be because they are aware that the facts confirm their presumptions most of the time. I agree that it is wrong, but it is accurate.

AspieUtah, you are profoundly racist.

Tell that to my half-hispanic half brother, and my Korean niece. And, while you are at it, say the same to my former gay partners, friends and coworkers who are black, Hispanic, Arabic, Irish, Lebanese, Japanese, Nepalese, Hungarian....

Then there are my political and governmental friends and associates who are Hispanic, black, Japanese....

You haven't apparently read my Wrong Planet post about how I sacrificed a national advertising job to stand up for a magazine-cover model after a subordinate for the magazine's black, female vice president demanded that we change the cover art because the model was "too dark." Do I get points for that?

Oh, and do you have anything to say about the facts, apart from my "profound racism?"

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oh, i'm sorry. i didn't realize you had black friends

Completely out of context and baiting.

Your previous interactions with people of color do not excuse your emphatic defense of racism.

dionysian, take your idiotic moral posturing and shove it.

It's not acceptable to cite aggregate statistics to support the idea that black people are more likely to be criminals. As presented, without context and any further analysis or additional data points, it serves no purpose but to confuse the issue in a way that shields racism from critique. I'm not posturing or moralizing. I'm just calling out racist speech.

The trouble with quoting statistics concerning crime and race is the implication that all people belonging to that particular race are potential criminals. People constantly make a correlation between Asperger's and serial or mass murder - even if that were true, I for one don't like it when people assume I'm a potential Adam Lanza simply because of who I am. The same benefit of the doubt should be given to black Americans, despite what statistics show.

Convincing of what? The officer who started the thread is complaining about illegitimate police calls, not crime statistics. You are looking at completely irrelevant data sets if you are trying to verify what the actual thread is about.


What the hell is wrong with you? You are saying that it's accurate for people to exaggerate the crimes they witness? Surely you must know that the average person is not aware of these statistics (particularly since you yourself had to look them up) and are therefore extremely unlikely to be calling the police based on them. An "accurate" decision to call the police is based on a legitimate threat in the particular instance in question, not statistics.

Furthermore, all this crap you've posted is irrelevant to this thread because the reddit discussion is about people calling the cops on people who were doing clearly benign things. It was determined that no crimes had been committed, and, in many of the cases, the people calling them in couldn't even cite any criminal activity. Did you even read what was linked?

Also, knowing certain people does not prove that you are not a racist. Learn some damned reasoning skills.

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