The Supreme Monad & Pleroma.

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It's thought of as the inaccessible light realm in gnosticism, where the Aeons originate that we as humans cannot fully know. The Monad dwells in the Pleroma, a place that is without mystery (hence, no darkness.) The Aeons, such as Sophia (wisdom), Christos (the annointed), Bythos (profundity), Althea (truth), are part of the Supreme Monad and its realm of light (understanding.)
Even though the Pleroma can be interpreted as a real place it can also be thought of in terms of a psychological state. In other words, it's what we cannot understand at our present level of awareness as human beings. Gnosis is the knowledge within this psychological state and our goal as humans is to find out as much as we can while alive. With every generation is another opportunity to discover the Light of the Monad if awareness is made possible.

Thanks. That's very interesting..

You're welcome, Aghogday. Although Gnosticism is about discovering the divine within and reuniting with the divine light, I get this idea about man's complete mental capacities made available as another interpretation. We cannot fully use them now but one day, will it be possible mystery will no longer exist. Will mankind know everything? This fullness of God or the Pleroma of the Supreme Monad is an allegory for what we are destined to discover about the universe.

I think the 'purpose and meaning' of the

'whole thing' is journey and never destination.

To know/FEEL now and live it as fully as one can, is to live.

One thing for sure all of us CAN feel/KNOW is now IS REAL..

And to live it with the gusto of HEAVEN IS NOW.

Imagine a world where children are raised in
heaven NOW;
instead
of hell,
in past
and future.

I think it's
possible, in
at least
a 'few
cases';
now..

And 'this dream',
is certainly not new..

I M A G I N E
TRUTH..

AND MAKE DREAMS
COME
TRUE..

And let the naysayers
do what they do in dark;
as dark is part of light too..

I think it becomes an issue when people live like heaven is here, that's how most people live but if you look around, heaven is NOT here. We have consequences. Everything we do...it's the law of cause and effect. This is NOT a heavenly condition. This is an Earthly one. A demiurgent reality. You have KARMA. That is a creation of the demiurge, a condition, not one of the Monad or Pleroma which is the realm of salvation. So to pretend like heaven is now, that is a complete deceit and lie. It will mess people up if they believe that lie. This is not a divine realm. You cannot pretend it is. If this is heaven, then heaven has issues. You can still improve your life here though, make it as good as you can, but beware of Karma, too, or all the effort will be in vain.

I don't think God plays games with humans.

But humans certainly do play games
with God and other humans.

I get all my info. from GOD;
God is here well
before any book,
human words;
and now.

But your ideas are interesting;
just not for me; I've already
faced God face to FACE;
in total separation;
and truly that's
all I need to
know about
GOD that
GOD IS
ALL THAT IS;
AND HELL
IS JUST
SEPARATION
FROM THAT;

I AM TOTALLY
CONNECTED TO
GOD; therefore
I live in the
KINGDOM OF GOD;
AND HEAVEN ALL
THE TIME NOW;
anything else;
I for one;
see as
cultural
illusion..

But to each
his
or
her own;
every path
has
its
reasons
and truth
or Not; that
is for each
human to
determine
on their own;
I already receive
my answers directly
from GOD; so human
help or culture is not
ANYTHING I REQUIRE
NOW, AS MY FAITH
IN GOD, IS 100 PERCENT
face
TO
'FACE'..

Aghogday,

You have your beliefs but it's a fact, we have to deal with the law of cause and effect. We have to do things here you wouldn't ever have to in "heaven" (I hope) such as eat something that was once alive. To me that doesn't not sound heavenly. It sounds like a tough fact of life, not a pleasant one, but necessary to exist here since we cannot live on air alone. Then you have this energy that likes to make conditions tougher than they would be without it, ever notice this energy? I have. It's an extremely stubborn and determined energy and before you know it, things are worse than they ever would have been without this energy. This energy exists in large swaths of humanity at any given time.

So I have a difficult time viewing this reality as heaven. If heaven is going to be before me, I hope it is a lot better than what I experience here, otherwise what is the point of heaven existing, if it is just a copy of what exists here? If there is a heaven, I cannot fathom where or what it is.

Ana, I've lived in hell on earth before; both poor and with more money, than I can ever imagine using.

However; there is zero percent chance for me, to ever believe that heaven is ever anything but now, now.

It's really simple logic AND FEELING, for me. Humans produce this cultural hell of illusions, overall.

There is peace in nature, and yes it is tough to survive;
but never the less there is
peace in living alive.

Truly some humans
never find that
from birth.

I cannot say
it is fair.

But I for one;
am nothing
to judge God;

God is my 'master';
and no matter what
happens; my only
choice is to play
by God's 'rules';

I learn that
lesson
in ways
that
most
folks will
never fathom;
at least in one
life; but never the
less; I learn that lesson
thoroughly, in service
to GOD; and for now
I have the gift
of heaven;
if only
the
person
left in
the
world to
receive it;
and truly
I intuit
I am far
from the
only one.

I will know if
I ever meet them
face to face; simply
by the energy they emanate.

I do not find folks like that in real life

anymore; sadly enough; but they do exist
in
times
before;
even before
i for one;
get to
the
heaven
they
enjoy
then;
Smiles..

THERE ARE NO words that can adequately describe
it; unless one fully lives there, in flesh and blood life;
the way humans are simply evolved to live naturally..

Aghogday,

What you are talking about could also be the law of cause and effect. Like, if you hurt someone, then you hurt. Ideally, if you help, you should be helped. Every cause has an effect. So if you treat others the way you would like to be treated, (golden rule) you create good karma, or at least, that is supposed to be, but, sometimes it doesn't work that way when there's destructive energy about, you do so much good but this energy others put out works against the good you do and this destructive energy is just a part of living on this planet. Your good actions only bring attention from those who channel energy this way and inaction would have been easier. I hope raising awareness will get everyone to think about it more because becoming aware of it is the best way to confront its effects.

I just thought I would put that out there, Aghogday, and I understand if you disagree. Whatever works best is best for you so if you feel content with what you describe then that's all there is to it.

I totally agree and heaven for me is a tough place of darkness too. And for me almost all the darkness in my life I find here as challenge but so far there is NO darkness that can defeat my gift of light; TG!.. With smiles..

O'Ana OH!

You do read some books.

God and Satan work together! One is there to lead souls to better things, and gives results, the other is there to tempt, and lead the takers to being extinguished in fire.

It has been a while since nomads on horseback rode through killing everyone and burning their houses. It does still happen in Africa and wherever IS is, but no one loots and pillages suburbia. At least not outside of Ukraine.

ISIS wants to make a better world by killing those who disagree, or have some other flaw, and lots of people call for the death of ISIS, who have never met them. It is a Karma Olympics.

We are not anywhere, Perhaps Heaven Terrace, and Hell Heights. Location is everything.

Those who would save the dammed souls miss the point, and are usually living a very guilty lie, and looking to avoid their just future.

All enlightenment is personal. None equal the Glory of whatever exists, and there are no cheat codes.

Even if we discover that some things are better than others, we think, we are still a mix of both, and are not sure which is which.

The results of a life well lived, well, Pilgrim, you picked up two yards that time, eight more and you have a First Down.

The Buddha sat beneath his tree and sought enlightenment, he went for the killing the final boss level. He could, he had a rich family, the Bill Gates of Transcendence. We do not get to make the big plays.

I just look to staying on the field through a few more lifetimes, then perhaps being reborn as a Hummingbird.