Why is our society prudish about sexuality?

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02 Aug 2015, 10:32 pm

Why is our society prudish about normal and natural sexuality? Why must sexuality be suppressed and seen as a bad thing even though it is natural? Is having natural urges wrong?Is this all religiously enforced paired with feminist ideology? I mean at times I am starting to think that even feminists aren't as prude as this radically conservative and religious society! Biology is in the works, nature is in the works and we must suppress our sexuality even though it is unhealthy to fit in with society!In a medical and phsycological point of view it is normal be sexual, but yet society frowns upon it?


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02 Aug 2015, 11:11 pm

It could be a number of reasons.

There is a lot of scary stuff about pedophiles and rape and child porn. You post a photo of a baby on facebook it's like you'd better not even show its naked butt, even though I used to see naked baby butts all the time in diaper commercials.

Apparently I am a disgusting sick pedophile for thinking the picture of the little Coppertone Girl with a puppy tugging at her swimsuit, showing her tan-lined butt cleavage, was cute. But no, the puppy was being a pervert and so is anyone else who thought it was cute. They got rid of her tan and don't show her butt anymore although the dog is still tugging on her pants. It looks stupid. :roll:

Christian religion. We're supposed to be modest about our body parts. Adam and Eve wore fig leaves and every picture or figure of Jesus on the Cross shows him in a loin cloth even though back in Rome people who were crucified were normally stark naked.

And yet, all the sex on TV and the movies would make you think people in North America were anything but prudish. On the other hand, Americans tend to make a bigger deal about sex than violence. There are movies open DVD in Canada that are rated PG and not R like in the States.

But I don't know, can you be private about something without being ashamed of it? I don't walk around with a sign saying HEY WORLD I'M HAVING MY PERIOD! I would surely be locked up if I did. :lol: Cultures are different, that's all, and there are really no right or wrong answers even though everyone thinks there are. It's what makes the world an interesting place to live.



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02 Aug 2015, 11:56 pm

No kidding about that, its like violence gore and cussing is ok but anything sexual is wrong! No wonder my country is violent ridden with violent crimes with rape and murder let alone going to war and killing innocent civilians all the time! As for the coppertone thing I dont see anything sexual about it its just one of those cute and silly moments but in modern societies point of view the dog is a pervert but reality it is just a dog being a dog and doing silly things and tugging at an article of clothing. My mom took baby pictures of me having a bath in the sink and same with my sister back in the 80s in modern times it would be considered child pornography! WTF


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03 Aug 2015, 12:05 am

It's because not everyone likes sex. Some people do while others don't. So, there has to be a compromise. America is not a sexually supressed or repressed country. For that you need to go to Saudi Arabia or India.



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ooOoOoOAnaOoOoOoo wrote:
It's because not everyone likes sex. Some people do while others don't. So, there has to be a compromise. America is not a sexually suppressed or repressed country. For that you need to go to Saudi Arabia or India.
At the way things are going it sure seems that way, even Japan as conservative and in ways more conservative than America is, seems more sexually open than America is! They show nudity on game shows and have love hotels and paying for fellatio is not considered prostitution there. Although public displays of affection are limited to hugs and holding hands while kissing is taboo and considered on the same level as sex!


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03 Aug 2015, 12:12 am

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It's because not everyone likes sex. Some people do while others don't. So, there has to be a compromise. America is not a sexually supressed or repressed country. For that you need to go to Saudi Arabia or India.
At the way things are going it sure seems that way, even Japan as conservative and in ways more conservative than America is seems more sexually open than America is! They show nudity on game shows and have love hotels and paying for fellatio is not considered prostitution there.

Asian countries except India are more open about sexuality but Japan is old fashioned about stuff like marriage and family.



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ooOoOoOAnaOoOoOoo wrote:
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ooOoOoOAnaOoOoOoo wrote:
It's because not everyone likes sex. Some people do while others don't. So, there has to be a compromise. America is not a sexually supressed or repressed country. For that you need to go to Saudi Arabia or India.
At the way things are going it sure seems that way, even Japan as conservative and in ways more conservative than America is seems more sexually open than America is! They show nudity on game shows and have love hotels and paying for fellatio is not considered prostitution there.

Asian countries except India are more open about sexuality but Japan is old fashioned about stuff like marriage and family.
It depends, China is even more close minded to sexuality than Japan is, any thing porn related is banned online and on TV and kissing as a couple is the equivalent of sex and hugging is the equivalent of western kissing!


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03 Sep 2015, 5:20 am

AspieOtaku wrote:
ooOoOoOAnaOoOoOoo wrote:
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ooOoOoOAnaOoOoOoo wrote:
It's because not everyone likes sex. Some people do while others don't. So, there has to be a compromise. America is not a sexually supressed or repressed country. For that you need to go to Saudi Arabia or India.
At the way things are going it sure seems that way, even Japan as conservative and in ways more conservative than America is seems more sexually open than America is! They show nudity on game shows and have love hotels and paying for fellatio is not considered prostitution there.

Asian countries except India are more open about sexuality but Japan is old fashioned about stuff like marriage and family.
It depends, China is even more close minded to sexuality than Japan is, any thing porn related is banned online and on TV and kissing as a couple is the equivalent of sex and hugging is the equivalent of western kissing!


In the case of the US, it's due to the pervasiveness of Judeo-Christian social values. in China's case, it's due to the pervasiveness of Confucian social values. In Japan, it's about 'keeping-face', which for the most part is a a partly Confucian thing that was imported here, and partly a buddhist thing. FWIW, I think that the Japanese obsession for really strange porn might be partly due to the fact that it is illegal to show genitalia in Japan.


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03 Sep 2015, 6:04 am

It's almost like some kind of love-hate relationship. It's the general NT weirdery in general I think. Frowning upon it yet not-so-secretly enjoying it. Why all this pointless smoke-and-mirrors? Somehow I think this self-repression is one reason why some NTs go nuts.

But yeah, I can attest to China's rather conservative views. Not just towards sexuality itself, but also extends a bit to sexual roles. But anyways, as I spent time overseas among the "western" people (and actually prefer them), I have been told off for hugging female acquaintances...



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03 Sep 2015, 10:49 am

AspieOtaku wrote:
Why is our society prudish about normal and natural sexuality? Why must sexuality be suppressed and seen as a bad thing even though it is natural? Is having natural urges wrong?Is this all religiously enforced paired with feminist ideology? I mean at times I am starting to think that even feminists aren't as prude as this radically conservative and religious society! Biology is in the works, nature is in the works and we must suppress our sexuality even though it is unhealthy to fit in with society!In a medical and phsycological point of view it is normal be sexual, but yet society frowns upon it?


We actually live in a society that's very controlling of nature to a large degree, to the point of actually being at odds with it. I'm not talking about America, so much as Im talking about globalist and technological society. It only makes sense that sexual nature would be even more so controlled. It has a lot to do with maintaining safe social boundaries and stability. Were all about feeling safe. Nobody wants to appear to be a creep or a slut, but deep down inside we all have a sexual nature.

I kind of like it in a way. It allows sexual tensions to escalate, and when u finally have sex, its like living in a dream. I almost wonder if civilization and all of its restrictions is some kind of demented, kinky game that hunter gatherers made up a long time ago to make for lustier, more erotic sex. Civillization is just a biproduct. Its all the result of cockteasing Wooley Mammoth hunting people. I'll even say that cockteasing is probably the lifeblood of civilization.

Polyamory is workable in a tribal setting. Its because guys cant just run away if they get a girl pregnant. They kind of have to stay in the childs life in some way, whether its being a direct father or helping with hunts that generally feed all the children in the village. If they runaway, they have to learn a new dialect, new customs, etc. Theyre still tied to the tribe, and vicariously the child. There's more social safety nets that just dont exist in monogamous, socially atomized cultures. I imagine in these settings, people are less repressed about sex. I'm sure some barriers exist though, like anywhere



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03 Sep 2015, 11:14 am

I think that we can't say 'our society' because the cultures of the U.S. are variable. I agree that the mainstream Germanic (English, German, etc.) culture is incredibly anal retentive, but where I was raised (American side of Lake Ontario) we were much more relaxed about sensuality. Possibly due to the heavy French influence?


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03 Sep 2015, 12:07 pm

glebel wrote:
I think that we can't say 'our society' because the cultures of the U.S. are variable. I agree that the mainstream Germanic (English, German, etc.) culture is incredibly anal retentive, but where I was raised (American side of Lake Ontario) we were much more relaxed about sensuality. Possibly due to the heavy French influence?
French and Germans tend to be more easygoing about sexuality. it's such a taboo in america because of the settlers being so ramrod straight about pious faith(read: not having fun). It's still echoing through american culture, even today.



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03 Sep 2015, 12:51 pm

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I think that we can't say 'our society' because the cultures of the U.S. are variable. I agree that the mainstream Germanic (English, German, etc.) culture is incredibly anal retentive, but where I was raised (American side of Lake Ontario) we were much more relaxed about sensuality. Possibly due to the heavy French influence?
French and Germans tend to be more easygoing about sexuality. it's such a taboo in america because of the settlers being so ramrod straight about pious faith(read: not having fun). It's still echoing through american culture, even today.

Actually, all my ancestors were Calvinists, so I don't think it's religious. If you look at the early colonial birthrates, they were a lusty lot.


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03 Sep 2015, 1:21 pm

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I think that we can't say 'our society' because the cultures of the U.S. are variable. I agree that the mainstream Germanic (English, German, etc.) culture is incredibly anal retentive, but where I was raised (American side of Lake Ontario) we were much more relaxed about sensuality. Possibly due to the heavy French influence?
French and Germans tend to be more easygoing about sexuality. it's such a taboo in america because of the settlers being so ramrod straight about pious faith(read: not having fun). It's still echoing through american culture, even today.

Actually, all my ancestors were Calvinists, so I don't think it's religious. If you look at the early colonial birthrates, they were a lusty lot.
where did I mention Calvinism? https://www.facinghistory.org/nobigotry ... nd-beliefs



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03 Sep 2015, 1:23 pm

Amnesty International UK

Sisters 'sentenced' to rape - demand justice


An unelected all-male village council in India has 'sentenced' two sisters to be raped and paraded naked through their village with blackened faces. This is as punishment after their brother eloped with a married woman.

Nothing could justify this abhorrent punishment.



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03 Sep 2015, 1:54 pm

Fugu wrote:
glebel wrote:
Fugu wrote:
glebel wrote:
I think that we can't say 'our society' because the cultures of the U.S. are variable. I agree that the mainstream Germanic (English, German, etc.) culture is incredibly anal retentive, but where I was raised (American side of Lake Ontario) we were much more relaxed about sensuality. Possibly due to the heavy French influence?
French and Germans tend to be more easygoing about sexuality. it's such a taboo in america because of the settlers being so ramrod straight about pious faith(read: not having fun). It's still echoing through american culture, even today.

Actually, all my ancestors were Calvinists, so I don't think it's religious. If you look at the early colonial birthrates, they were a lusty lot.
where did I mention Calvinism? https://www.facinghistory.org/nobigotry ... nd-beliefs

You implied it. If you don't know that Calvinism was the dominant ' pious faith' of this country, you don't know history. And don't throw an f#$%ing link at me. If you can't make your own argument, you really don't have an opinion.


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