Am I one of the ony people (NT or Aspie/Autism Spectrum)

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....who isn't straight down one path in terms of my morals???

Like for example: Abortion. I think if the girl was raped or the child would be a product of incest(possibly also rape) then yes, abortion should be allowed. However, if she was just hosing around with her boyfriend or being a slut or she is a prostitute or something like that and the condom broke, I say f**k it, you're having the baby b***h, like it or not, if it was up to me. Giving it up for adoption CAN be your choice once the kid is born and at least 3-5 months old though.

And immigration....I really think we should shut our borders down entirely but then again I LOVE me some Hispanic p****(I live in TX, so we have a lot of immigrants and a lot of them I know and party with or are good friends with, so I'd hate to see basically all of them go...that and the fact that America was pretty much founded on immigration)

And as for minority rights.....I say we elect one person from each of the other races(we already have a black guy, tons of whites, 2 ret*d people(looking at you, Obama and Bush junior) and a crazy guy(I'm looking at YOU now Reagan)) so lets knock out the rest and then do a woman from each race so they can't b***h and call it quits. It doesn't fix everything, sure, but it should be good enough til we get our s**t in line and can actually get around to the bigger problems. Not to mention the fact that I, a 23 year old white male here in America, am slowly but surely seeing my race become a minority in a country WE founded.

As for for or against war....well, the Iraq War is a total crock for why we were over there in the firs place. Bin Laden, had we actually been over there for that in the first place and it not been an excuse for us to do a million other non-Bin Laden-search related things, could have EASILY been caught 4-5 years ago. Thats my personal opinion, so please don't flame me. But for wars that we're actually going in, getting our s**t done, and pulling out once the general mission is complete, I'm cool with.

Anyway, but yeah, just wondering if I'm the only person here who thinks this way and not just "HERP A DERP A DERP A DERP!! ! TOTALLY AGAINST ANY AND ALL WAR, ABORTION AND IMMIGRATION HERP A DERP A DERP DERP!! !"

Or the other way around.

These subjects may conjure up strong opinions in some people. But then again it's not like you aren't allowed to express your own opinions, free speech etc. Here are my opinions: on Abortion I believe it's a woman's choice, I can imagine if I were to bring a child into my life at this very second it would both unpleasant for the baby and I. I don't have much of an opinion on immigration and minority rights although I believe once you immigrate to a country you should at least try to understand the language and the culture of country immigrated to, it's just being polite. On war, well I don't think they are worth either the time or effort. Simple

Um... to make but one small comment on the most bigoted post I've ever read anywhere,

Actually WE, Native Americans, or more factually my ancestors (being as neither you or I were alive in the 16th century or before) "founded" this country by migrating here across the Bering Strait. It was their home for thousands of years before European conquerors invaded and killed or pushed Native Americans off their land. So it may then have been a place described by its newest inhabitants as "their country" but it was a country illegitimately "founded."

The original poster is inciting hate and division. No human is at all that different from one another either by gender, race or religion and is quite similar in instinct no matter how advance they claim to be. With that said war and territory disputes are innate to instinct. The earth itself seems to have no thoughts on the matter least obviously but it's inhabitants make claims and dispute over her dirt to find yet again in the cycle the same behavior. Hope that eventually humans as a species will all evolve to the point of seeing it's own nature as truly logical and not required least in part. Protectionism breeds conflict and greed breeds protectionism.

Also If I am correct your stance on immigration is "close the borders except to certain Hispanic females who AspieGamer88 wants to have sex with"?

Ok, shut the hell up. Listen, I have Comanche(in fact I'm distantly related to Quanah Parker) Cherokee, and I believe a small bit of Apache in me as well as the s**t ton of Irish, part Scottish, Russian, Italian, German, apparently small bit of South African and Japanese and a tiny bit Brazilian(although we're mostly Irish..all sides of my family had lots of Irish) and I'm not starting anything with you or your people, but I will say that everytime I see this it makes me burn the f**k up when I see Native Americans say s**t likes this. Its just like black people who were never a victim of slavery or unequal rights or anything like that still b***h at me, a guy who had no control over that s**t or what my ancestors did and wouldn't do it given the chance. So shut up. The Native Americans were here first, yeah, but they weren't smart enough to do the diplomatic part of it, so it WAS up for grabs, no matter which way you look at it.

Also.....



Umm...where did you pull that from??? I said I love getting some from the hot little Hispanic girls around here, and if it weren't for immigration, they wouldn't be here to oh so willingly give it up, so I guess I'm saying I wish they would shut down the borders but not deport people who have already immigrated over.

You sound to me like a prejudiced person trying to make excuses.

White people came here and took the land from the people it rightfully belonged to. You weren't born then and you're not responsible for what your ancestors did, but you do benefit from it and should recognize your white privilege.

And if whites become a minority, why would that be a bad thing?

It also makes me wonder that you call yourself 'white' and then in response to criticism you reveal that you're actually mixed race. You can identify as white if you wish, but then don't pull out your mixed ancestry to defend yourself from accusations of racism.

Weren't smart enough? They were just forced off their land due to the white settlers believing the Natives were just savages to cast aside at will. Also no matter which way you look at it? Don't you mean no matter which way "I" look at it, since we are picking huge holes in your theories.

This is hypocritical coming from you ci. You picked on me for calling someone a fascist for typecasting all 'NT' mothers as hating their 'autistic' sons. The worst this guy has done is to try and limit immigration because he thinks it has a negative effect on the country, which is possible. I don't agree with it but that doesn't mean I then use supposition, that word you like to slap on everyone, to say he is somehow trying to incite hate and division.

Gee, what a lovely misogynistic prose you've got there. By the way, you're posting in the wrong forum. This should be in PPR.

Yeah it does seem a bit cramped centre-field.


Yes, this would be okay, although I think it would be better if you said this with a bit more tact. The adoption thing is something people like to ignore alot I admit. Personally I think there are other exceptions. Abortion to preserve the life of the mother, say.


I disagree. The USA already has stringent polciy. Shutting down borders would just shut down preferential immigration for skilled workers to the USA.


Whoah whoah! Too much information!

Given most of how you describe everythign else this seems quite nuanced.


I am not sure if this is supposed to be overly simplistic or trolling. I can see getting your crap together is a big part of your political ideology

Erm, so? You are an immigrant country, right?


True

Yes, Tora Bora does seem like a big cock up and people were too trusting of Pakistan.

We're all aspies here, well, mostly, so there is little chance of getting flamed. You will get roasted though, very slowly.



You seem impetuous. That wont serve you well here. Not trying to insult you but it wont do you much good.

What because he likes interracial sex and has opinions on abortion? I have seen more misogynistic stuff come out of a woman's mouth before.

Yep, i'll give you that one.

You called someone a Nazi for disagreeing with you. Disagreeing with an argumentation style is not "picking" on you. The poster referred to women as a "B" word and used other commonly perceived offensive remarks.

With regards to supposition that was your word you were using on myself and others. You do allot of the things you tell others they do. Yet say they do to others. It's a little odd.

I second what Ettina said. Don't call yourself white and then claim Native American/other mixed ancestry only when it's convenient for debate. If you're Native American you're Native American all the time and no Native American-all-the-time would say "Not to mention the fact that I, a 23 year old white male here in America, am slowly but surely seeing my race become a minority in a country WE founded."

I got your proposed policy on immigration from your very own words which you've JUST reiterated here : "I said I love getting some from the hot little Hispanic girls around here, and if it weren't for immigration, they wouldn't be here to oh so willingly give it up, so I guess I'm saying I wish they would shut down the borders but not deport people who have already immigrated over." How is this not saying you want the immigration policy to keep out all but those who enhance your sex life?

Oh my I'm going to have to assume you're trying to get people mad. The absurd misogyny and racism in your paragraph about "electing one person from each of the other races" I haven't even addressed and don't think I will. Or that horrendous first paragraph that blames and lambasts women exclusively (or "b*****s" in your oh-so-progressive parlance) for unintended pregnancy. Your entire series of posts in this thread is the most ridiculous thing I've read in quite some time. I sincerely hope you seek out some fundamental education on race and gender issues because it makes me sad and sick to see this ignorant filth coming from the mind of yet another potentially tolerant and aware human being.

EDIT: Oh and by the way I'm not blaming you for things that happened in 16-, 17-, 18-, 1900. Neither you or I were alive then. Just to highlight the absurdity of identifying oneself as one and the same as individuals who were alive and doing stuff then, let me say that I am half white and half a product of a mixed Native American/Black tribe. So if I were culpable for my ancestors' sins I'm guilty of killing and enslaving myself. Which is ridiculous. So no, I am not claiming my ancestors' actions as my own and it's just as silly for you to do so by saying that "WE" founded the country when you mean your white ancestors did.

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What lies! I called him a nazi for inciting distrust and hatred of NTs!

I didn't say you were disagreeing with his argumentation style. I was saying you were making agressive, ludicrous accusations over nothing

He is acting childishly. This is just how most people his age think. If you need to know I don't call women b*****s so don't worry ci. I show tact. He just hasn't got any tact. Why don't you actually take offense of people who make actual violent and threatening remarks rather than pick on someone acting over the top?


No, you accused me of using supposition ci

Because you say so? Yet you still don't use any proof for this when I ask you over and over.

No, ci. I say you accuse me of using supposition constantly and somehow expect me to think this is an acceptable argument when you have no proof. I say you use the word too much and use it against me unfairly.


The only thing that's odd is your hypocrisy

Gedrene,

I was going to say you were being mellow dramatic and hypocritical but I didn’t want to "pick on you". At this point I now realize an argument with you is like debating Q on star trek the next generation episode 1 season 1 which I happened to watch last night on Netflix because of all the star trek talk on here. It's not worth my time and others time but simply is a lesson in pathological thinking styles where their own rules don’t count and they play victim of their own tactics. These kinds of folks have special rules of handicap in debate. You can’t argue with them In the same ways they argue with you.

Your behavior is either learned which you have copied from it being done to you or your really trying to foul up the debate and not take it seriously on this site.