Should guns be baned? I dont think so and here is why!

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03 Nov 2015, 1:00 am

When it comes to home invasions and you feel your life is in danger as well as your childerens lives are in danger you have every right to defend yourself , even if it means using deadly force, because even if guns are banned it will not stop thugs and other criminals from illegally obtaining them as a means to kill you! Guns are necessary as a means of self defense that is all. I dont condone murder just defending your life from murderers and the guy in the vid intended on murdering this woman and her childeren! Interesting fact is if your house is being invaded in Texas and you have a gun and call the cops the cops wil tell you to shoot to kill and kill them and no charges will be pressed not maim em because they can sue you they want you to kill them and ensure you are safe.


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03 Nov 2015, 1:10 am

Cops are telling her to shoot him, if she did not have a gun she would be raped and her kids wold be killed! In the vid cops are telling her to shoot him and shoot him again! Defend yourself dont allow yourself to be killed and raped, if guns were banned she would not beable to defend herself and she wuld be raped and killed as well as her kids and the thug would have a gun by illegal means.


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03 Nov 2015, 1:14 am

I dont own a gun and dont hope to have to own one unless I live in a bad neighborhood, but I do support those who want to defend themselves from those intending to kill, im not saying guns are toys to play with but nothing other than something to protect you from people who threaten your life who also have a gun that is all. Be responsible and only use your gun for self defense that is it.


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03 Nov 2015, 1:37 pm

gunz r oanly yoosd 2 cil peepl oanly peepl that dont no how to fite with therr handz hav them gunz r 4 white men that oanly want 2 shute nigurz i mean blak peeple boy i hoap nun of them can reed becuz then il b in trubble 4 hait speach
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03 Nov 2015, 2:01 pm

I sleep easier at night knowing I am armed, imagine what would have happened in this situation if these two did not have a gun in their home:



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04 Nov 2015, 3:54 am

If anyone breaking in expects the victims to be armed, they are more likely to actually shoot.
Arming civilians leads to an arms race between police, criminals and civilians; it's only a matter of time before flamethrowers or RPGs are used.



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04 Nov 2015, 4:05 am

I don't think they should be banned, but I don't think it would hurt to tighten the gun laws in America.



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04 Nov 2015, 9:08 am

I think guns should definitely be banned, because things like rogue AI's, Death cults, ethnic cleansing, hordes of plague ravaged lunatics, pogroms, jihads, crusades, food shortages, directive 666's and general breakdowns in law and order probably won't ever happen again in the future. It's totally acceptable to remove the ability of citizens to adequately defend themselves, in order to possibly reduce the murder rate. Being safer in the aggregate in the short term is all we should care about, obviously.



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04 Nov 2015, 10:14 am

izzeme wrote:
If anyone breaking in expects the victims to be armed, they are more likely to actually shoot.
Arming civilians leads to an arms race between police, criminals and civilians; it's only a matter of time before flamethrowers or RPGs are used.


If a group of criminals are breaking in to rob another group of criminals (to relieve them of their ill gotten gains) the "shooting" scenario you describe is likely. If a group of criminals are breaking in to rob innocent homeowners then your statement makes no sense as any criminal will simply go somewhere there are no guns.

It sounds like you are advocating against arms usage to protect your home. Although your choice is "your choice" it sounds as though you're advocating a cowardly response to a threat. Would you suggest you lie down on your belly and tell them where the kids sleep so they can do their dirty business and leave quickly (so as not to "upset" your evening)? Because if you have no form of defense this is exactly what you are doing.

Try to think of arms usage in the same manner you think of using a seat belt: It's a pain in the ass 99% of the time, but when you need it you'll be happy you have it. It could save your life or your family's life........If used properly. Better start practicing.



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06 Nov 2015, 7:34 pm

I agree with the OP. If I was in the south, I'd feel safer going to bed at night having a gun in a box beside me.


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06 Nov 2015, 10:36 pm

Raptor is making fun of gun-control people.

He wants them to make his day :D

He's okay....if he take what I said with the grain of salt that it deserves.



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07 Nov 2015, 5:38 am

I think it should be up to the individual country/state to figure out the best approach for them.

The biggest issue I have with both sides is they overplay the correlation between a particular gun policy and crime. it is not all about guns.

If you take worldwide data, there isn't a conclusive result. It totally and utterly inconclusive.

In fact why would you to expect it to be conclusive? It is pretty obvious that guns are a secondary factor in the overall crime rate.

It is obvious that deprivation, inequality, education, corruption, culture of crime are more primary factors.

AspieOtaku I totally understand your point, but it is still a first person POV based on one account, which is totally different from looking at overall crime as a phenomenon. I do sympathise with wanting to be safe on a personal level.

Most people are killed by people they know an you have a degree of trust with, and the abuse that trust. So they use that weakness to catch you off guard.

On the other hand there is nothing wrong about saying you'd rather have the option to defend yourself than not. There isn't a right or wrong.

Perception can vary from reality especially. "Bobbies on the beat" (visual police presence on the street) can have the effect of making people feel safer, however it is not necessarily true that it is effective deployment. Some research conducted suggested otherwise, and smarter deployment could be superior in tackling crime even if the perception is less good.

One thing that is not in doubt in the US has a crime problem. If they want to do something about it they need move beyond just a discussion on guns.

Having said that crime has been declining in developing countries for some time. We just have higher standards than the past.



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07 Nov 2015, 5:49 am

CockneyRebel wrote:
I agree with the OP. If I was in the south, I'd feel safer going to bed at night having a gun in a box beside me.


And surely the South would be a safer place to be, and the death penalty is doing a great job of deterring people. :wink:

The reality is Memphis has the almost the same violent crime rate as Detroit.

The reality is taking away guns isn't going to solve that and neither will more guns.