Scientists turn OFF belief in god with MAGNETS.

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03 Nov 2015, 7:51 pm

How to resolve a person's belief in a god?
Use transcranial magnetic stimulation (TMS) apparently.

http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/611992/Scientists-experiment-magnets-immigrants-God-magnetic-waves


Abstract is here:
http://scan.oxfordjournals.org/content/early/2015/10/10/scan.nsv107.abstract

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03 Nov 2015, 8:12 pm

At first, they make it all about Islam, to gain acceptance, and then it'll be:

-Turning off citizens concerns about the european immigrant crisis with magnets.

-Turning off your inclination to associate with trade unions.

-Turning off emotional empathy with magnets.

-Turning off individualism with magnets.



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03 Nov 2015, 8:15 pm

That is scary. And why would they want people to believe less in God?


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03 Nov 2015, 9:02 pm

nurseangela wrote:
That is scary. And why would they want people to believe less in God?


The point of the research is NOT to change people's belief in some god.

The point is to see if TMS can change STRONGLY HELD BELIEFS, which it apparently can.

These researchers don't care about religion, they care about understanding TMS and its effects on human Neurological function.



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03 Nov 2015, 9:23 pm

Exactly ^.

But now the Illumanatti will use this discovery to purposely use magnets to makes us all godless by suspending tiny magnents from chemtrails all over the world!


The tin hatters were right all along!

Just kidding.

But this will be seized upon to justify another fifty years of tin hat wearing paranoia.



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03 Nov 2015, 9:46 pm

They could do stuff like this on people with MRI machines. That deals in magnets and patients get MRI's all the time.


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04 Nov 2015, 12:52 am

Oooh the possibilities. Reforming behaviour is always interesting. I did get distracted by a box on that page that read Stubborn magpie gets into bloody mishap with head though, I admit.


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04 Nov 2015, 1:04 am

I might have to check that one out. I guess I missed it.


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04 Nov 2015, 2:49 am

As I have a strong belief in atheism, would this treatment make me believe in god?



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04 Nov 2015, 4:08 am

neilson_wheels wrote:
As I have a strong belief in atheism, would this treatment make me believe in god?

Yes, using magnets have lead to changes in ones beliefs and/or mental state.
You wouldn't be the first atheist to have change in beliefs due to magnetic treatment and other forms of treatment.
How long it takes for your body to recover back to pre magnet level is a different story.
There is no guarantee your beliefs would fully recover.
They've been testing magnets and other stuff for almost a century now.


Magnets are also used to treat depression, anxiety and other brain stuff with doctors administering it.
Many patients have experienced a loosing of morals, values, and sense of right and wrong after being treated with magnets.
Granted this regularly happens to those taking powerful prescriptions too.

Your doctor can give you a chemicals to literally tone down hunger, addiction, emotions and others.

The military tested a chemical to prevent sleep, though it had negative health issues on the GIs that took it.

Anyways the point is, something that changes the chemical and neurology of your body will lead to noticeable changes in you.


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04 Nov 2015, 4:22 am

This is incredibly fascinating but also saddening at the same time.



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04 Nov 2015, 7:21 am

Your attitudes can be effected (atleast momentarily) by inputs even less invasive than magnets.

The same subjects will give markedly different answers to the question "how did you get along with your mom?" when they hold a cold drink in their hand from when they are holding a hot drink in their hand. Holding a hot drink causes them to report a worse relationship with their mom.

And studies have shown that folks' political views swerve to the right if they happened to be sitting next to a bottle of hand sanitizer (thats what I heard on a documentary about the unconscious last night). Apparently it unconsciously reminds you of germs, and thus makes you fearful, and xenophobic, or something.



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07 Nov 2015, 3:50 pm

If it could turn off my belief in Obama and Hillary that might be neat for a few moments.


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07 Nov 2015, 5:36 pm

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07 Nov 2015, 9:33 pm

naturalplastic wrote:
Exactly ^.

But now the Illumanatti will use this discovery to purposely use magnets to makes us all godless by suspending tiny magnents from chemtrails all over the world!

Way to complicated.

Aliens......


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