Why are people so against gay people?

Post Reply New Topic

Why are people so against gay people?

It can be a combination of one or more of the above. People who are anti gay have numerous reasons they try to justify their hatred or dislike. So it's difficult to pinpoint one particular reason from the list.

Certain cultures make it even more difficult and they are stuck in a medieval way of thinking.

People here on WP, who are mostly on the AS spectrum, are generally much more accommodating and open minded. As I'm gay myself I find there is a fairly large proportion of gay folk here: the ratio seems to be somewhat higher than among NTs. Thus we are doubly a minority!

You left out what i figure is the most likely reason.

I think a lot of homophobes are, deep down, terrified that they recognize some of their own self in gay people.

And I'm not even really talking about the conjecture that "everybody is at least a little bit gay" - though many gay-bashers are just closeted queers trying to prove how not queer they are.

It's a sort of projection. Certain kinds of people, particularly those who consider themselves deeply religious, perceive in themselves a propensity for debauchery and deviance which they assume is normal, common, and sinful.

They are taught as much in church, from a very young age.

And yes, I'm basically saying that there are christians who strongly believe that without Jesus they would be engaging in all manner of fornication and sodomy and other deadly sins.

And in their minds, that is what makes gay people seem so disgusting - they believe that these people are just indulging in the sins that the great deceiver has placed in their minds and hearts.

Which is nonsense. If any n+1 number of people want to make each other happy or even commit to support each other, I say go for it, as long as everybody is honest and nobody is being taken advantage of.

Gay people pursuing who they are attracted to are no more deviant than straight people pursuing who they are attracted to.

Last edited by blauSamstag on 24 Nov 2015, 2:22 am, edited 1 time in total.

Plenty of reasons:

1) They are taught it's wrong
2) It's against their religion
3)They believe it violates the US constitution
4)They find it sick
5)They are in the closet gays so they overcompensate, look at #1.
6) They believe relationships and marriage are between a man and woman

It could be any of the above, and also because people had long associated homosexuality with HIV/AIDS.

You left out an option.

They aren't.

Unless you're talking about Russia or Saudi Arabia.

The idea that another man would want to have anal or oral sex with me (whether giving or receiving) makes me want to puke. The idea that this makes me some kind of closet homosexual is just plain stupid.

Yes, gay men have hit on me. I tell them that I am interested only in women. Some were more persistent than others, and would not take 'no' for an answer until I called the cops on them.

Last edited by Fnord on 24 Nov 2015, 10:08 am, edited 1 time in total.

I have heard that some countries that are formally less permissive about homosexuality, often tolerate it when it happens discreetly. The situation is often not quite as bad as is often assumed by westerners.

To the extent that homophobia is still much of a problem in western society, I think it's probably mainly a result of our importing forms of prejudice due to the west's (what I think are often Machiavellian) immigration policies. Then, because of political correctness, we are collectively lectured about our prejudice as if we are all backward. This is annoying.

Domestically grown religion is also to blame, of course. As is some of the conduct of SJW's, who by virtue of being obnoxious, tend to turn public opinion against whatever issues they stand for.

Sexuality has traditionally been one of the go to Achilles' heel's that are used for blackmailing purposes. That's one of the reason's why religion has tended to overtly shame sexuality, while simultaneously cultivating peoples sexual secrets via means like the Catholic confessional and COS auditing. It's a great method of control that's been reproduced over and over again throughout history.

Happily, It looks like the bad guys might have lost most of their ability to use gayness to blackmail people, for now. Northern Ireland's legalizing of gay marriage is the latest good sign of that.

Unfortunately, it looks like not being progressive PC enough is becoming a popular new baton with which disruptive people are publicly shamed and dealt with. The tactics never seem to go out of vogue.

Last edited by Nebogipfel on 24 Nov 2015, 2:46 pm, edited 45 times in total.

There's undoubtedly some of this going on. The main reason though I think is just because people have been taught (certainly in previous generations) by their peers and by their parents and by the media that gays are a group that it's OK to hate on. People love to look down on someone.

I grew up in England where there is little religious influence and homosexuality was never mentioned in what RE we had at all. There were numerous unpleasant/laughable gay characters on TV. They were frequently portrayed as predatory, cowardly and untrustworthy.

Calling someone "gay" at school was the worst thing you could call them. It didn't necessarily mean that you thought they were actually attracted to the same sex. It meant (for boys) that they weren't manly or tough enough. Any boy who liked cooking or sewing or dancing would automatically be assumed to be gay. Anyone who liked drawing was probably pretty suspect. Not being gender typical was a terrible, terrible thing. I don't quite know why. Some males were absolutely obsessed with being macho. I don't think they were actually secretly gay. I think they had just taken on board the stereotypes their parents hated.

Other than religion, I think some, at least, feel your basic "fear of the unknown"----they fear what they don't understand; they don't understand it cuz THEY don't feel that way, and they don't understand how anybody else COULD.

Other than this gut reaction, someone else's sexuality is simply none of my business. If you're gay, then be gay. Some of my relatives (male and female) act out the stereotypes, and I don't care if they're gay or not because I love them. Some of my friends were my friends before I knew they were gay, and they are still my friends. It's those men who have hit on me and have taken offense at being turned down that (in my mind) give gay people a bad reputation.

So it's the same way with some Christians; if people express hatred toward them as a group, then they should check their own behavior first before blaming others for being hostile. Then in this context, if you're Christian, be Christian. Just be aware that what you think as 'normal' behavior may be 'bizarre' or even threatening to others.

Now, replace the word 'Christian' with 'gay', and you'll get a better idea of what I'm trying to say.

latent homosexuality more times than not

either that or Jesus brainwashing

Or it's a non-issue.

Squeaky wheels and all.

Too bad more men don't wonder how straight women feel in the same situation, eh?
Perhaps there is a common element.

(and no, this is not aimed at you; rather, you just tend to bring up really interesting points and observations)

And this leads into an aspect of homophobia that hasn't been mentioned:

We live in cultures that very much assume men are superior and often grant them some degree of greater privilege. And this includes most denominations of Judeo-Christian religions, too. Such a social structure necessarily has to assume a pretty strict sex and gender binary. LGBT people, as living proof that such a binary is merely an oversimplification of the actual reality, are a threat to those social structures.

It is forbidden to be gay, and gays have broken this law. So they are not following law and survive by mercy. There is nothing to be open about about gays. You dont see gays in the open. And they are a minority.

What are you talking about, lunarious87? Have you honestly never seen gays in the open?

Not sure if your comments are serious or tongue in cheek.