All You Americans Are Fired

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http://www.buzzfeed.com/jessicagarrison ... -are-fired

A great piece of journalism from Buzzfeed of all places that basically completely debunks the theory that Americans are unwilling to do these unskilled labor when in reality these companies just want modern day slaves. They are not only denying Americans jobs but they are exploiting bordering on enslaving these foreign workers. This "legal" immigration is an even bigger problem than those illegals that cross our border on foot, many of these workers just walk off these jobs too and good many of illegals have entered the country this way off work visas. The whole system needs to be redone, it should done with the interests of the American worker first and foremost. Maybe it is worth it to pay a little more for produce? It doesn't even really cost them less to hire these foreigners, it's just that they whip them into being twice as productive. This madness needs to stop.

THIS IS CAPITALISM!

This is why capitalism is so great; the capitalists strive for the most efficient use of resources.

duh

Some truth to a lot of it. I have known people who picked fruit, who told of children who were better pickers than them. It did take a month or more to come up to speed. When someone is paying by the hour, they want everyone working at the same speed.

When they used to pay by the box or bin it evened out, but I think piece work has become illegal.

Families used to come, everybody worked together. By the hour, only adult men are worth it.

The pickers I knew worked as a group, and worked smaller farms. Both they and the farmer looked forward to next year. It was several families that travelled together.

This is different, a big field has a short life, picking everything at its peak, takes a lot of hands for a short time.

Taking trainees for the hardest work they ever did, at a pace that does not quit, most of the workers will. Matched with a Mexican that grew up doing field work for much less money, unless you are in top shape you will not last a day.

I know one hyper worker, I hired him for some yard work, something I did myself, and he worked me into the ground, and he did most of it. I met his other employer who told me he put new workers with him, to see if they could hang, and the children of his friends, their first job, where they worked from morning till night, and every job they had after that was easy. We do not have a culture of work like that. Mexicans do.

I can pick up a bale of hay, but bucking hay from a field, loading the new baled onto a flatbed, stacked eight high, is a whole other form of work. It has to be stacked in the barn before it rains, so it is dawn to dusk every day till it is done.

If we are going to get the job done, we do need Mexicans. For $75 a day they will do a lot of work, and be back tomorrow morning at dawn. In Mexico that is two weeks pay. Americans can stand around inside for $60 a day.

Besides the visas, Mexicans will stay as long as the money is right, Americans will make some money and leave. When the crop has to be harvested, Mexicans are the way to do it.

There are a lot of smaller growers that do just hire local, if someone wants to work they can find a job.

There is some truth to all of this.

I'm sure just straight up chattel slavery would be even more productive and efficient, these migrants are being taken advantage of as modern day slaves and Americans are being denied jobs. I do not care if the cost of labor goes up, it should, maybe wages wouldn't be so stagnant if we weren't bringing in millions of third worlders into unskilled and now even skilled(H1b) workers and they actually paid a fair living wage. If we have to pay more for produce then we have to pay more for produce, we will be fine, we will survive, people will be better off if they are actually working for a living. This whole "no Americans will do these jobs" narrative is just a complete lie, these companies go thru extraordinary lengths to hire their foreign slave workers.

Why, exactly, is it that US private employers should somehow be obliged to favor domestic-born employees?

The entire "immigrants are taking our jobs" angle assumes that US citizens somehow "own" the job openings that private companies decide to make available.

But they are private companies, founded by, owned by and run by private individuals. It's their businesses and their money.

The notion that someone is more "deserving" of a job simply because he or she - through no achievement of his/her own - was born in a country is more shallow than the flimsiest of affirmative action arguments (even if you include the 27 percent chance of having to serve on a jury), and it flies in the face of the notion of hiring the best individual for the job.

I would - grudgingly - accept that a public employer could be instructed to offer (extremely limited) preferential treatment in employment for individuals who had been conscripted to serve in the armed forces, as his/her citizenship would actually involve a duty to do something serious for his/her country. But since no one has been drafted in the US since 1973, that's a rather moot point.

And even then, it would probably have to be an active combat role.

BS. Americans will not do manual agriculture related jobs.

I used to work for a company in Georgia that grew/processed/packaged vidalia onions. Sure, you could get Americans to work in packaging--putting onions in bags or boxes, but that's about it.

One year at harvest time ICE scared off our field crew. The owners were so despirate the get the onions out of the field that they were offering $15/hr (in 1998). Lots of people tried, but most walked off the job within the first hour and NOBODY lasted a day.

Sure nobody is owed a job, but we need them just the same. Companies have used h1b visas to hire cheaper workers over our highly skilled workers. Nobody wants to earn a degree in computer science only to get passed over for someone cheaper. Right or wrong, I vote against this practice.

It's a silly dishonest argument you are making, it's not as if you believe that government should not involve itself in the economy but rather just that it shouldn't protect American workers so why is that? I just don't understand. My allegiance is to the United States of America, not Mexico or the Philippines or Bangladesh. If our government does not want to do what is in the interests of the American people than that government is tyrannical and should be overthrown. It is not a level playing field, Americans cannot compete with foreign workers because the entire point of their importation is to undercut us with less pay, less benefits, brutal work conditions, and no way of recourse. They don't want workers, they want slaves.

Illegals must never receive amnesty and need to go home, legal immigration must be metered, children of non-citizens should revert to citizenship of their parents. This is the way most of the planet is so why can't we do the same? It is our right to decide our immigration policy, we don't have to bend the will of the corporate moneyed interests. This is how democracy is suppose to work right?

Just because the average test score lags other countries doesn't mean we don't have highly skilled workers, that's really condescending of you. This is a better known example of our tech workers losing jobs to h1b workers.