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Kyle Katarn
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18 Dec 2015, 6:52 am

Black man says he hates whites, nobody bats an eye.
White man says he hates blacks, everybody loses their minds.

Woman says she loathes men, nobody cares.
Man says he loathes women, everybody goes crazy.

In the US black people are favored in job interviews and it's seen as positive discrimination. I call BS, there's no such as thing as positive discrimination, just like there's no such thing as positive bullying. Discrimination and bullying are bad, they shouldn't take place.

So, just because you're black or a woman(or both) doesn't mean you're entitled to anything. Nobody is. Get over it.
I wish people would understand that everybody should be held to the same standards.



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18 Dec 2015, 7:33 am

Unfortunately, us white males are suffering for the transgressions of our grandfathers and great grandfathers. It isn't fair. At all. It only perpetuates racism in the white community.

I'm 37 and it seems like more everyday whites are more racist now than ever before in my lifetime. It's what you get when essentially, all lower class people are on a level playing field at this point. Then we have to be bombarded with stupid concepts like white privilege/guilt. I'm still waiting to see what my white privilege gets me because I sure has hell haven't seen it. Something tells me I'll be waiting for quite awhile.

So now it's ok to say whatever you want about whites. And you have to take it evidently. As a whole, from my experiences blacks are far more racist people than whites. And I grew up in a predominantly black and hispanic city where approximately 15% people are white. I endured much racism going to HS being not only white, but a long-haired heavy metal white guy. Not fun or easy. It never ceases to amaze me, when you talk to some whites who support such concepts and are just so over-the-top with their beliefs that we need to pander to minorities (which very soon won't even be minorities at all), and you ask them where they come from. Most of them come from white-bread towns, with a handful of minorities. Some only met blacks through going to college. They've never been in real inner-city situations and saw how really anti-white they are.

The problem in our country is class-ism more than it is racism. As the middle class as all but completely eroded, anyone left under the bar is really in a difficult position as costs of living continues to go up and up, as does standard of living. If you are a minority or an immigrant it is way, way easier to receive government assistance.

The women thing I have a slightly different view on. I see both sides of the coin. While I have very traditional ideals of gender roles, I am also sensitive to the concept that women, in the past, have struggled in a very unique way. I've seen this in my experiences growing up as the eldest son of a single mother.

But even with that, we've reached a point where, despite what many people believe, systematic racism/sexism (true racism/sexism not off color jokes or men being fixated on sex) it's quite rare. Now, do individuals carry these views? Most certainly. But the need for affirmative action has long since passed.
But it isn't going anywhere. The least beneficial thing you can be today in America is a white male. i don't anticipate that is going to change.



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18 Dec 2015, 8:12 am

I don't notice black people getting preference for jobs where I work.

And I work in a location where I am able to listen to job interviews, and see new hires.

I live in New York City, and there's still lots of de facto segregation going on--especially in housing and schools. Both the housing and schools in mainly black and Hispanic areas tend to be of a lower standard than in areas where other ethnic groups predominate.

What is say is true in an objective sense.



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21 Dec 2015, 1:14 pm

It's the result of indoctrination, both on movies, by their parents, and in the classroom, meeting real life where people act out stuff based on what they've been taught and react to the stereotypes they've been taught rather than to real life. It's like when you tell someone your reasons for anything and they go on to tell you your "real reasons". Sure, yeah, you're telepathic aren't you now? Really, people hear a problem exists and they make speeches in their minds and just act as parakeets speaking out their psittacisms in reaction to situations that do not exist and end up making worse ones.


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21 Dec 2015, 4:46 pm

Anyone can be racist or sexist, don't let these SJWs fool you.

The amount of racism and misandry from the ultra-feminist camp astounds me. "White Male Tears", like, really? And they wonder why no one likes them.



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21 Dec 2015, 4:58 pm

Fortunately, I don't run into many ultra-feminists in my life.



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21 Dec 2015, 5:08 pm

Kyle Katarn wrote:
Black man says he hates whites, nobody bats an eye.
White man says he hates blacks, everybody loses their minds.

Woman says she loathes men, nobody cares.
Man says he loathes women, everybody goes crazy.

In the US black people are favored in job interviews and it's seen as positive discrimination. I call BS, there's no such as thing as positive discrimination, just like there's no such thing as positive bullying. Discrimination and bullying are bad, they shouldn't take place.

So, just because you're black or a woman(or both) doesn't mean you're entitled to anything. Nobody is. Get over it.
I wish people would understand that everybody should be held to the same standards.



In our US history, black people were used as slaves for centuries and they were owned by whites and also sold to other whites as if they were animals. Also after the slavery was outlawed in 1865, there was segregation and taxes went more to the white schools than to the black schools, white people had more rights than black people, black people were more scapegoated for crimes and more often executed for crimes they didn't commit, they were also segregated from places and from sitting on certain benches and using certain water fountains. This went on until the 1960's when the new law passed. So for centuries and decades, black people were treated poorly by whites so thus the reason why we have that double standard.

Women are more often abused by men than men are and men are generally stronger than women and women are more often raped by men than men are. This is my guess for the double standard.

I think black people are favored in job interviews because they are afraid they will be sued and be accused of discrimination. I don't know if they (black people) intentionally play the race card or not. But I agree that we should both be treated equally.


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21 Dec 2015, 8:12 pm

As long as women earn 70c on a man's dollar for the same job, they have the right to complain.


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21 Dec 2015, 9:13 pm

The scales are tipping---rapidly.

There are more woman judges than man judges where I work.

There are more woman university students than male university students.

Ain't nothing wrong with that. Men just have to raise their own game, that's all.



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21 Dec 2015, 9:30 pm

When Obama leaves office and Trump replaces him it shall all end!! !
It's called Political Correctness or PC.



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21 Dec 2015, 9:45 pm

Trump will not make it to the Republican nomination, no less the White House.

I hate political correctness. I'm not too thrilled with Trump.



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21 Dec 2015, 9:45 pm

shlaifu wrote:
As long as women earn 70c on a man's dollar for the same job, they have the right to complain.

Name examples of a woman working the same job with the he same experience same background spworking the exact same hours. I've seen bunch of stuff that disproves wage gap, because it doesn't take in account women working less hours or have less experience, or taking time off for babies. Or women who work part time and it's based of the yearly income not how much they'll paid per hour. If woman makes 70 cents a year and guy makes a $1 but guy worked 40 hours a week and the woman worked 32 hours a week. Would that be a wage gap? But if you ignore all the other details the. Say she made 70¢ and he made $1 is it a wage gap? I've never met a woman working a job who got paid less per hour unless she's not worked there as long and they have a pay increase based on how long you worked there. I've meet a bunch of women who got paid more for the same job because of that they end worked there longer.

No doubt this is the same as anti gun people citing numbers from s poll taken in the 90s as if it's still true today, also in that case the numbers were rigged and wrong.



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21 Dec 2015, 9:48 pm

AntDog wrote:
When Obama leaves office and Trump replaces him it shall all end!! !
It's called Political Correctness or PC.

If Clinton is elected she'll speed up and continue running our nation into collapse. She's failed at every government job she's had why would you elect her. Would you make the lazy doesn't work and messes up everything guy ceo of your company?

Trump may not be good but I'd rather give him a shot then Obama 2.0 Clinton



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21 Dec 2015, 10:15 pm

I thought I was starting to feel welcome around here, but it's increasingly looking like at least this part of the site is Stormfront Lite.

Note: That is hyperbole. But seriously... this is disappointing.


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21 Dec 2015, 10:49 pm

I'm sorry you're disappointed.

What do you find hyperbolic?

(I am sorry you're disappointed).



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21 Dec 2015, 11:31 pm

kraftiekortie wrote:
I'm sorry you're disappointed.

What do you find hyperbolic?

(I am sorry you're disappointed).


You misunderstand; my own comparison was hyperbole. It's really not that bad, but the fact that a thread like this could turn into an echo chamber this quickly is disconcerting to say the least. If you want to talk about it in detail, feel free to PM me. I won't derail this thread for that.


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