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22 Mar 2016, 1:59 am

Four more contests today in the (interminable) presidential primary season:

Arizona Primary -- 58 R delegates, 85 D delegates
Idaho Democratic Caucus -- 27 delegates
Utah Primary -- 40 R delegates, 37 D delegates

And we are expecting special on-site analysis from Jacoby for this one:
American Samoa (R convention) -- 9 delegates

Delegate counts as they now stand are here:
http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2016 ... sults.html


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22 Mar 2016, 5:25 pm

Here's a chart to track the evening's results as they come in:

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/electi ... ch_22.html

(And it inexplicably excludes American Samoa.)


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22 Mar 2016, 6:45 pm

Voted and did my duty today



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22 Mar 2016, 11:12 pm

Arizona is called for Trump (R) and Clinton (D).

No word from Utah or Idaho yet.


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23 Mar 2016, 12:49 am

Utah being called for Sanders -- they *really* don't like Hillary there.

Cruz way ahead of both Trump and Kasich in Utah also, with just a few returns in.


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23 Mar 2016, 1:03 am

A recent poll showed utah realllly doesn't like trump either. In a pretty strong republican state, it shows hillary beating him by a small percent and sanders beating him by about 15%.

I'm suprised by the quantity of rubio votes in arizona. If he's no longer on the ballots, that says something. And if he is, not sure what it says.


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23 Mar 2016, 1:19 am

It's looking like there goes the argument that it's 'unfair' to expect a truly preferred candidate to get more than 50% with multiple candidates.


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23 Mar 2016, 1:19 am

Darmok wrote:
Utah being called for Sanders -- they *really* don't like Hillary there.

Cruz way ahead of both Trump and Kasich in Utah also, with just a few returns in.


Probably because the Mormons were hoping to see a naked picture of Trump's wife! Cruz was trying to use that to draw more voters of the "Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints"! Wth?! 8O

http://www.newsmax.com/t/newsmax/article/720400

I think Cruz just might be lying. We may never know. I'm just wondering why a naked picture would bring more religious people. Strange.


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23 Mar 2016, 1:53 am

Mitt Romney and Glenn Beck commanded Mormons vote against Trump, it's a closed caucus too. Not representative of anything really. Bernie Sanders is winning by similar margins in Mormonland too,

Rubio got so many votes here because of early voting from before he dropped out which makes up a pretty large percentage of the votes here.

Trump will get the delegates, haters will have to fall in line or leave



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23 Mar 2016, 5:03 am

Well, hell. Cruz got Utah. Guess that nude picture of Trump's wife sealed the deal. :mrgreen:


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23 Mar 2016, 9:01 am

Jacoby wrote:
Mitt Romney and Glenn Beck commanded Mormons vote against Trump, it's a closed caucus too. Not representative of anything really. Bernie Sanders is winning by similar margins in Mormonland too,

Rubio got so many votes here because of early voting from before he dropped out which makes up a pretty large percentage of the votes here.

Trump will get the delegates, haters will have to fall in line or leave

Mormons are not big believers in divorce so that most likely had more to do with it than a magazine cover or what anyone said.The Cruz campaign didn't publish that photo,another group did.Since she posed and got paid for it she didn't mind so why should Trumo care.


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23 Mar 2016, 1:35 pm

Misslizard wrote:
Jacoby wrote:
Mitt Romney and Glenn Beck commanded Mormons vote against Trump, it's a closed caucus too. Not representative of anything really. Bernie Sanders is winning by similar margins in Mormonland too,

Rubio got so many votes here because of early voting from before he dropped out which makes up a pretty large percentage of the votes here.

Trump will get the delegates, haters will have to fall in line or leave

Mormons are not big believers in divorce so that most likely had more to do with it than a magazine cover or what anyone said.The Cruz campaign didn't publish that photo,another group did.Since she posed and got paid for it she didn't mind so why should Trumo care.



That's dirty campaigning to be talking about a candidate's wife, there is a lot to be said about Heidi Cruz and her relationship with Ted if they want to go down that road we can. Did you think it was okay when they sent out pictures of John McCain and his adopted Bangladeshi daughter in South Carolina before the 2000 Republican primary? It is somebody supporting Cruz campaign, do you really believe these superpacs are independent of the candidates? It seems like a good way for not taking responsibility for things and this has been a pattern with Cruz from state to state. This is guy is a rat, he is dirty, he should not be trusted. Look at the Bush family all line up him now, now his foreign policy team is made up of neocons, his true colors are showing.



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23 Mar 2016, 1:55 pm

Jacoby wrote:
Misslizard wrote:
Jacoby wrote:
Mitt Romney and Glenn Beck commanded Mormons vote against Trump, it's a closed caucus too. Not representative of anything really. Bernie Sanders is winning by similar margins in Mormonland too,

Rubio got so many votes here because of early voting from before he dropped out which makes up a pretty large percentage of the votes here.

Trump will get the delegates, haters will have to fall in line or leave

Mormons are not big believers in divorce so that most likely had more to do with it than a magazine cover or what anyone said.The Cruz campaign didn't publish that photo,another group did.Since she posed and got paid for it she didn't mind so why should Trumo care.



That's dirty campaigning to be talking about a candidate's wife, there is a lot to be said about Heidi Cruz and her relationship with Ted if they want to go down that road we can. Did you think it was okay when they sent out pictures of John McCain and his adopted Bangladeshi daughter in South Carolina before the 2000 Republican primary? It is somebody supporting Cruz campaign, do you really believe these superpacs are independent of the candidates? It seems like a good way for not taking responsibility for things and this has been a pattern with Cruz from state to state. This is guy is a rat, he is dirty, he should not be trusted. Look at the Bush family all line up him now, now his foreign policy team is made up of neocons, his true colors are showing.

I'm not defending Cruz,just mentioning that supposedly it wasn't him that posted it.I suppose they thought it was helping him.Sure it was tacky,the whole election has been tacky.I don't like Cruz,he reminds me of a bossy Baptist preacher.He looks,talks,and acts just like one.No thanks.
But if you marry a supermodel, you should expect some racy pictures might come out.She's a nice looking woman,of course men are going to gawk at her.They would have to be gay or blind to not look.
Simmer down now or I'll box up Tom Cotton and mail him to you. :P


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23 Mar 2016, 2:16 pm

It's not that people are seeing the photo, I think everybody knows she was a model but sending this out the day of the caucus to a bunch of Mormons is just dirty dirty politics. Talking about any candidate's wife like that really is crossing the line in my opinion, even sites Slate/Salon/Buzzfeed agreed that it was essentially slut shaming what they were trying to do and it's not right. People attack Trump for his multiple divorces but he's been with Melania for almost 20 years, that beats half of America right there but unlike Bill Clinton he doesn't have a bunch of people coming out of the woodwork to say he raped them or sexually assaulted them. He has good relationships with his ex-wives, he has been great father and has successful children(unlike a lot of families prominent political figures) I like the Trump family.



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23 Mar 2016, 3:32 pm

Jacoby wrote:
It's not that people are seeing the photo, I think everybody knows she was a model but sending this out the day of the caucus to a bunch of Mormons is just dirty dirty politics. Talking about any candidate's wife like that really is crossing the line in my opinion, even sites Slate/Salon/Buzzfeed agreed that it was essentially slut shaming what they were trying to do and it's not right. People attack Trump for his multiple divorces but he's been with Melania for almost 20 years, that beats half of America right there but unlike Bill Clinton he doesn't have a bunch of people coming out of the woodwork to say he raped them or sexually assaulted them. He has good relationships with his ex-wives, he has been great father and has successful children(unlike a lot of families prominent political figures) I like the Trump family.

They had probably made up their minds before the photo came out,I doubt it had much effect except to make the folks that put it out there look like jerks.
If you have noticed,I've never said a bad word about Trump's family,they aren't running for office.Of course he is fair game.I doubt the Mormons care much for Clinton either.What does Clinton even have to do with this discussion?Everyone knows he's a horn dog.Hide your wives,hide your daughters lol
If Trump dredges up dirt on Cruz's wife, then he's better than the ones that tried to smear his wife.


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23 Mar 2016, 4:02 pm

Ted'z wife is an executive at Goldman Sachs and has very odd police report from 2006, that's why Ted should be very careful with his or his surrogates words about other candidate's wives. I think there is a lot more merit and interest in inquiring about Heidi Cruz than I do with Melania posing as a model. Trump fights back and he goes for the knockout, dirty lyin' Ted better watch out.