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10 Feb 2016, 7:25 pm

Then why are there still Africans?



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10 Feb 2016, 7:26 pm

What? Are you asking why humans still live in Africa?



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10 Feb 2016, 7:32 pm

Because only some people left Africa, while the rest stayed behind. That's why we still have Africans.

Before then only some ape species evolved into humans and human-like creatures, while the rest barely evolved at all. That's why we still have apes.


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10 Feb 2016, 7:36 pm

I'm sorry, but this question makes no sense to me. What is the reasoning behind the question?

I could give a big long explanation of anthropology, but I think it's probably just better to understand why you think humans logically should not still be in Africa.



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10 Feb 2016, 7:39 pm

It's been pretty well proven that the Genus Homo has an African origin.

Obviously, the reason why there are Africans is because some members of the Genus Homo decided that they didn't want to leave the continent.



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10 Feb 2016, 7:43 pm

Yigeren wrote:
I'm sorry, but this question makes no sense to me. What is the reasoning behind the question?

I could give a big long explanation of anthropology, but I think it's probably just better to understand why you think humans logically should not still be in Africa.


The question is basically pointing out the flaw in people saying that we shouldn't still have apes and monkeys if humans came from them.



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10 Feb 2016, 7:57 pm

NewTime wrote:
Yigeren wrote:
I'm sorry, but this question makes no sense to me. What is the reasoning behind the question? I could give a big long explanation of anthropology, but I think it's probably just better to understand why you think humans logically should not still be in Africa.
The question is basically pointing out the flaw in people saying that we shouldn't still have apes and monkeys if humans came from them.
Then why did you not post that in the first place?


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10 Feb 2016, 8:08 pm

Fnord wrote:
NewTime wrote:
Yigeren wrote:
I'm sorry, but this question makes no sense to me. What is the reasoning behind the question? I could give a big long explanation of anthropology, but I think it's probably just better to understand why you think humans logically should not still be in Africa.
The question is basically pointing out the flaw in people saying that we shouldn't still have apes and monkeys if humans came from them.
Then why did you not post that in the first place?


I get why he posted it. But its a bad example to use for that purpose because folks who deny evolution also deny that we came out of Africa.

A better example would be:

If the U.S.A. was founded by colonist from Great Britain...then why is there still a country of Great Britain?

That ^ question about Britain contains the same amount of logic as "if humans evolved from apes then why are there still apes?".

That amount being zero! :lol:



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11 Feb 2016, 4:11 am

Oh, I get it. I believe in evolution, so the question confused me. I read a lot about biology and anthropology.

I guess my feeling is that people who don't believe in evolution have a right to believe that way, even though I disagree with their opinion. Religion is a very personal thing, and I'm not sure I feel comfortable trying to challenge another's beliefs unless it is going to have a significant negative effect on myself or others.



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11 Feb 2016, 4:47 pm

A better analogy would be, if we came from our parents, why do we still have parents?



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11 Feb 2016, 4:55 pm

If most Americans came from Europeans, why are there still Europeans?



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14 Feb 2016, 3:45 am

NewTime wrote:
Yigeren wrote:
I'm sorry, but this question makes no sense to me. What is the reasoning behind the question?

I could give a big long explanation of anthropology, but I think it's probably just better to understand why you think humans logically should not still be in Africa.


The question is basically pointing out the flaw in people saying that we shouldn't still have apes and monkeys if humans came from them.

It's a straw man argument. We didn't evolve from any modern ape or monkey species. Modern apes, monkeys, and humans evolved from a common primate ancestor. There's still a lot of quibbling about what exactly that ancestor looked like, but most have settled on something chimp-like with human-like features.

Imagine this as a metaphor. Your Mom and Dad lived in South Africa. They had 10 kids. One moves to Egypt, one to the Ivory Coast, and three move to Israel. Five stayed at home with the folks in South Africa. The fact that some of the kids moved away doesn't erase the fact that your parents and the other kids stayed back home. It also says that the kids are not the same thing as their parents. Each kid has descendants. Some of them move to new locations: Asia, Australia, Europe, even the Americas. The African kids also have descendants, who stay put or move to various parts of Africa. Some may decide to move out of Africa in later generations as well.


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14 Feb 2016, 5:17 am

If this post came from me, why do I still exist?


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14 Feb 2016, 3:52 pm

Spiderpig wrote:
If this post came from me, why do I still exist?

How do I know you still exist after the post came from you? (unless you post again... and even then, you might have ceased to exist after that) :wink:


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14 Feb 2016, 4:06 pm

NewTime wrote:
If most Americans came from Europeans, why are there still Europeans?


I believe, after seeing New York City, many moved back. :D



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15 Feb 2016, 3:49 pm

I am a proud African American. :lol:


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