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29 Feb 2016, 2:00 am

India; 1 wounded, and the murderer hanged himself

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/indian-man- ... angs-self/



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29 Feb 2016, 4:20 am

horrible.



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29 Feb 2016, 7:22 am

India needs stricter knife-control laws.


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29 Feb 2016, 8:03 am

Fnord wrote:
India needs stricter knife-control laws.


That is more likely to happen in America before India. No KRA here :D


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29 Feb 2016, 10:06 am

Did he have a concealed-carry permit? Was the knife registered?


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29 Feb 2016, 12:31 pm

[personal attack removed]

Just wondering what if this had happened in the Philippines or here in America to a nice white family or a Filipino - White mixed family ? Would the responses have been more compassionate? Gee, I wonder.


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29 Feb 2016, 1:41 pm

HisMom wrote:
[Personal attack removed] Just wondering what if this had happened in the Philippines or here in America to a nice white family or a Filipino - White mixed family ? Would the responses have been more compassionate [personal attack removed] ? Gee, I wonder.


You must be new to the US dont get the political subtext.

America is polarized over gun control.

America keeps getting periodic mass murders via guns ( Aurora, Sandy Hook, San Bernadino, Columbine, like that).
And sometimes its not just any guns- but automatic rifles.

So every time that happens the debate over gun control erupts.


But while the U.S. gets "spree shooters" other countries (China in particular for some reason) get "spree stabbers". Individuals like in this story from India who go nuts and manage to kill a whole slew of people sans guns by just stabbing them.

So whenever a mass murder gets onto the front page using a knife instead of a gun all of the anti-gun control folks in the U.S. crow about it, make jokes about "getting background checks to buy steak knives", and like that.

Maybe its still in bad taste. But thats where all of the joking is coming from.

Hope that explains it.



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29 Feb 2016, 1:49 pm

Since this was in India,maybe he had multiple arms to stab with like Shiva.


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29 Feb 2016, 2:55 pm

HisMom wrote:
[personal attack removed] Just wondering what if this had happened in the Philippines or here in America to a nice white family or a Filipino - White mixed family ? Would the responses have been more compassionate [personal attack removed] ? Gee, I wonder.


Humans sometimes use humor and sick humor at that to deal with horrific situations

The following comedic sketch was made by Jews about Nazi Germany. I guess it would be considered too offensive today


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29 Feb 2016, 2:57 pm

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A man murders 14 family members, including young children, and some of you want to make tongue-in-cheek / sarcastic posts about this horrific incident? NO compassion and NO decency, whatsoever. Par for the course, I suppose. Just wondering what if this had happened in the Philippines or here in America to a nice white family or a Filipino - White mixed family ? Would the responses have been more compassionate and less sociopathic ? Gee, I wonder.
You must be new to the US dont get the political subtext. America is polarized over gun control. America keeps getting periodic mass murders via guns ( Aurora, Sandy Hook, San Bernadino, Columbine, like that). And sometimes its not just any guns, but automatic rifles. So every time that happens the debate over gun control erupts. ...
Not just from people in the US, but people from other countries contribute by bashing all Americans for being violent, trigger-happy, sociopathic criminals intent on slaughtering family members, school-children, and just about anyone else within range of their legally-purchased firearms, while making no mention of sympathy at all for the victims.

So i'm calling "Turnabout is fair play" on this one ("Don't dish it out if you can't take it"), and if people are so caring about the victims of mass murder, let me point out that it makes no difference if someone uses a gun to kill four people, or if someone uses a knife to kill fourteen - mass murder is still wrong.

You can legislate all kinds of laws against owning weapons and it won't stop anyone who is determined to kill as many people as possible, because you just can not legislate against being crazy.


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29 Feb 2016, 4:00 pm

Having a knife or a gun makes a big difference.



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29 Feb 2016, 4:49 pm

I just think it's sad, and I'm wondering why he felt it was ok to kill his entire family over something that was likely insignificant when compared to the ending of a life.



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29 Feb 2016, 5:05 pm

AspE wrote:
Having a knife or a gun makes a big difference.
Four people died in a recent mass shooting. Fourteen people died in this recent mass stabbing. Twenty people died in Iraq about six hours ago when a suicide bomber set off his explosivesThe only difference I see is ten more people dead due to being stabbed, and even more people dead due to being blown up.

Laws can be made to prevent people from owning weapons, but no law can prevent someone from being crazy.


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29 Feb 2016, 5:44 pm

ASPartOfMe wrote:
HisMom wrote:
[personal attack] Just wondering what if this had happened in the Philippines or here in America to a nice white family or a Filipino - White mixed family ? Would the responses have been more compassionate [personal attack] ? Gee, I wonder.


Humans sometimes use humor and sick humor at that to deal with horrific situations

The following comedic sketch was made by Jews about Nazi Germany. I guess it would be considered too offensive today


and mel brooks, the producer of that little shtick, is JEWISH.



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29 Feb 2016, 8:16 pm

naturalplastic wrote:
HisMom wrote:
[personal attack]Just wondering what if this had happened in the Philippines or here in America to a nice white family or a Filipino - White mixed family ? Would the responses have been more compassionate [personal attack]? Gee, I wonder.


You must be new to the US dont get the political subtext.

America is polarized over gun control.

America keeps getting periodic mass murders via guns ( Aurora, Sandy Hook, San Bernadino, Columbine, like that).
And sometimes its not just any guns- but automatic rifles.

So every time that happens the debate over gun control erupts.


But while the U.S. gets "spree shooters" other countries (China in particular for some reason) get "spree stabbers". Individuals like in this story from India who go nuts and manage to kill a whole slew of people sans guns by just stabbing them.

So whenever a mass murder gets onto the front page using a knife instead of a gun all of the anti-gun control folks in the U.S. crow about it, make jokes about "getting background checks to buy steak knives", and like that.

Maybe its still in bad taste. But thats where all of the joking is coming from.

Hope that explains it.


I am certainly neither "new" to America nor unable to get the sub-text. However, I still don't see how it is appropriate to bring that up whilst commenting about a lunatic murdering 14 people in cold blood, including young innocent children in their sleep.

You want to debate gun control - fair enough, but this is not the appropriate thread for that. Yes, this is a very good example to show that gun control will not stop a lunatic from carrying out his or her murderous agenda but I have a problem with people "joking" about this incident, minimizing the loss of innocent lives in such a casual way.

And I stick to it. Had this happened in the Philippines or to a nice white family in Michigan, I strongly doubt that that particular individual would have joked about it in this thread. It is a pattern characterizing many of his postings that I am referring to - usually completely cold hearted, unless the thread happens to involve his own people, or belief-systems and values that he appears to identify with.

For me, a life is a life is a life - whether that's a white life or a black life or a Filipina life or a brown life or a pink life or an orange life or a purple life. I just think this "joking", and making this all about gun control in America, is horrific and that's my opinion on the topic.

If you doubt me, then I invite that individual to use this incident to make the case for or against gun control :

10 KILLED, 14 WOUNDED in a knife-attack in the Philippines

It's even more horrific in that a total of 10 people were killed, and 14 others seriously injured, by a man welding a knife (and not all the victims were asleep either, at the time of the attacks).


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29 Feb 2016, 8:39 pm

^Just makin' sure that you knew.

I didnt say that it really proves anything one way, or the other, about gun control. Just sayin' that folks will project that issue into it.