The detrimental effects of pornography on youth today
I think we really need to look at how we're raising our kids. When I was a kid, I don't remember girls being expected to engage in sexual intercourse before even any kind of relationship occurred, at least not on this scale. The girls here are clearly being negatively impacted, because the feelings of boys and men are being prioritized over them.
http://www.abc.net.au/religion/articles ... 420147.htm
And, yeah, if you ask someone out (and this includes asking out girls and women) and they say "no," then accept it. Don't try to argue with them, don't try to create a persuasive speech, or anything like that: that's just creepy and shows you have zero respect for them as a person.
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http://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1 ... 012.660431
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The problem has been identified and the blame has been laid.
Now, does anyone have a practical solution, or is this going to be just another seemingly endless thread of back-and-forth blame-shaming?
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I don't buy that pornography has had a detrimental effect on youth in of itself and by other studies this generation of young people are far less sexually active with teen pregnancies plummeting over the last 30 years. Society in general is much more antisocial, we sit staring at screens 24/7 and that's what parents have delegated their parenting to, kids don't interact or play with each other outside or anything like they use to. People don't really have value systems anymore and most people are just completely self absorbed which what can you expect when just get pummeled with consumerism nonstop since the day you we're born? Our culture is poisoned, modern technology has advanced far faster than society can keep up. One should remember too that society does not progress at linear pace, in some aspects things can get better while at the same time others can become worse. Just because society has made progress in the civil rights of minorities does not mean that everything else is better. I don't believe I am better off than my parents, I don't believe my parents were better off theirs, I don't know about you but this country has been in decline for a long time now.
Last edited by Jacoby on 08 Mar 2016, 1:52 pm, edited 1 time in total.
Something to think about.
I remember the late Sixties when they started having movies more gritty than GP rated. And politicians worried about the "Age of Permissiveness!" we had entered.
Then with the Seventies came the rise of the adult film industry. But in the Seventies and Eighties you had to go to special shops in the low rent part of town to see "film loops", or (with the eighties) to buy the XXX video tapes.
Becoming a debauched degenerate was just so much work that few went to the trouble. There was a natural brake on whom (mostly adults) and how much (sparingly) folks consumed smut. So few people became addicted to the stuff, nor were they much effected by it. And most folks who consumed porn even in this new "age of permissiveness" were already adults with their own cars. And you were carded like a customer in a liquor store.
IMHO thats was exactly how things should be -allow folks to buy smut if theyre willing to go out of their way to do it.
But then in the late Nineties came the Net. Soon most of the Net became devoted to porn of easy access. Some east European countries seem to export nothing but internet porn. And then in the mid 2000's we had portable devices to access the net-what the articles is talking about.
The Sixties and Seventies trend to "permissiveness" was driven by changes in societal attitudes.
But now this present day trend toward easy access is not socially,or culturally driven, it's technology driven. We could have had an American religous Ayatollah ruling America from 1967 until now to make sure we only watched chaste movies - and we would will still have had the sudden appearance of easy access to hard core Russian child porn on smart phones because of the evolution of technology. So its all on a spigot now- easy to get as tap water.
Assuming that the OP is correct in her assertion ...
How to stop the proliferation of on-line porn? Ban porn? Ban the Internet? Require a license to access "adult" material? Construct an app that puts black bars in images and videos across every person's "naughty bits"?
(Imagine trying to stream a live basketball game.)
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Parents should teach their kids that sex is dirty and unhealthy, that self-stimulation will drive a person mad or blind, that deriving pleasure from pronography is filthy, and that anyone who wants to have sex is depraved, perverted, and just plain evil. That'll fix things, for sure!
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I think people just need to accept that a sizable portion of the population are still asshat nimrods and stop trying to blame technology. The world today is a better place than its ever been. If you want to blame anything for people being possessive and wanting instant gratification, then maybe blame the societal norms of at least the last 10,000 years of human history, when people, and especially women, were property.
It was, until regressives started retconning history and peddling BS like:
Are you suggesting that women slaves were somehow 'more property' than men slaves? Have you studied history sufficiently to understand the relative degrees of ownership and found that male slaves were somehow more free? What can you possibly know about the experience of being a slave of either sex at any point in the last 10000 years?
I'm genuinely concerned for the mental well-being of anyone who can, without a hint of irony, make the kind of claim that you've made here.
Oh, and FYI: Instant gratification is the result of decades of being told "You can have everything you want and you can have it yesterday!" by marketers and vote-seekers, coupled with companies that provide instant or near-instant access to media, goods and services.
It was, until regressives started retconning history and peddling BS like:
Are you suggesting that women slaves were somehow 'more property' than men slaves? Have you studied history sufficiently to understand the relative degrees of ownership and found that male slaves were somehow more free? What can you possibly know about the experience of being a slave of either sex at any point in the last 10000 years?
I'm genuinely concerned for the mental well-being of anyone who can, without a hint of irony, make the kind of claim that you've made here.
Oh, and FYI: Instant gratification is the result of decades of being told "You can have everything you want and you can have it yesterday!" by marketers and vote-seekers, coupled with companies that provide instant or near-instant access to media, goods and services.
No I am not making a claim that women were "more property" like there's a degree to it. Some men were free, but basically all women were property in most cultures. Women in most cultures were bartered goods of their fathers. The Romans and all their descendant cultures are a good example of this up till the last 200 or so years depending on the region.
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Considering both sons and daughters were subject to patria potestas (or actual patriarchy), you're arguing exactly that. Mos maiorum held the head of the household accountable for the well being of all free members of his household, protected the rights of wives and children on pain of censure. Roman women had the right to divorce their husbands on any grounds as long as it was done according to mos maiorum, and this was fairly common by the time Julius Caesar came to power.
Equating Roman women to "bartered goods" goes beyond disingenuous. It's outright dishonest.
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I'm not convinced that future generations will have the slightest interest in whatever it is that influences your ideology.
I think a place we could start is to make sure that we have comprehensive sex education nationwide to teach kids to distinguish between fantasy and reality. Cut out that effing wishful-thinking abstinence crap.
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"You have a responsibility to consider all sides of a problem and a responsibility to make a judgment and a responsibility to care for all involved." --Ian Danskin
There is no demonstrable negative consequences by pornography or even our supposed lack of sex education, that's a symptom not a cause. What we have is a lack of parenting from a bunch of self absorbed people that have no values and moral center, this idea that we're better off than our parents has been a myth and fantasy for generations in American when in reality we have the disintegration of the American family and the American worker. I think the fact that most marriages end in divorce is a much bigger factor in how children see the other sex and relationships than pornography, mothers and fathers often turn their children against their ex-spouses and just the lack of that other parental figure is devastating to a child. It's not media's fault that we delegate our parenting to it, again that's just symptom of the bigger problem which is a cultural collapse and mindless consumerism taking its place. It is no wonder that people are miserable and have no hope for the future, it is no wonder there are so many lost souls wandering our plane, the consequences of this depression are grave and if we don't change our ways then we will go off the cliff.
